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Spiritual Chat 274 -- "Outline & Summary Version" -- About Spiritual Chat 274
Title of Chat:  "God Says To Us From Within Us,
                        Catch Me If You Can"

Date of Chat:  June 27, 2006
Chat Between:  Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler)
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Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 274

Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most
Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa
'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the
beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all. May God help us all.

Bawa. My love you (anbu), my dearest loving brothers and sisters.

Bawa. Here is an Outline & Summary Version of a beautiful Spiritual Chat between our dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and our dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) for your reading, and hopefully your sharing enjoyment.

Bawa.  To read a shorter E-mail Version of the same Spiritual Chat, that is, of Spiritual Chat 274, one without an Outline and without Expanded Summaries of some Outline Topics, please click HERE, or above in the "Main Go To", on Go To E-mail Version.  Thank you .  Enjoy.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.  Amen.

Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following names or titles, to reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the feet of God for our age, which in truth is the feet of our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of us living in this age, if we like, that is, if the true intention for our life within us, for our soul life, is to again become "One with" God within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True".

"God Says To Us From Within Us,
Catch Me If You Can"

Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler)

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Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 274
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Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 274

1.  Moving Forward God's Story Within Us - in the "Presence of God" within us, by Stopping "Our Story" on the "outside of us, in "Our presence"  on the "outside" of us
2.  God Has Already Given Us Everything - so what are we to ask of God within us? And the answer is "Nothing".  In this way, rather than asking God for something more, or new, we need to correctly learn to use what we already have been given by God within us, but which we are currently failing to use properly

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3.  A Little Story About "Nick" of New York City - that is, about our dearest loving brother Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen, or Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as Bawa gave Him both names, about the correct way to "Enter the heart of our Shaikh", or "His Room", or to come together with "His Children", for in truth it is all the same, if we like, that is, if we truly understand "Who we are", and "Where we are", and "What is happening" in our life
4.  God Is Always Saying To Us, "Catch Me If You Can" - as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, are always saying to us, "Catch Me If You Can", and now on the "outside" of us, as His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), are saying to us right now, "Catch Me If You Can", because They know something that many of My Children have yet to truly realize on the "outside" of them, and to truly start to live within them

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5.  What Makes Us Valuable To God Within Us? - and to Our Shaikh within us, to our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), and to Bawa within Them, and to God within Bawa within Them, is one thing, and only one thing, and that is, "That We Don't Want Anything"
6.  So What Is God Doing Within Us? - He is telling and bringing to Completion within us "His Story" within us, which is the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, not looking at "us" as "separate from" Him, or deciding what "we" need, as "separate from" Him, for from God's perspective "we" as "separate from" God within us don't exist
7. How Do We Catch God? - "We can't Catch God", but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh, by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and by God within Him.  Amen

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8.  How Do We Catch Our Shaikh? - by learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does, and what They are doing, is handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return
9. And What Does Our Shaikh Then Have Us Do? - when "We" have truly become a True Disciple or Devotee of the Shaikh, as One who serves the Shaikh in the correct way, as One who truly surrenders and immerses oneself within the Shaikh, as One within whom the "you" is dead and gone, as One who has truly fallen into the "Fire of the Shaikh", of One who has only the qualities the Shaikh, of One who now exist as "One with" the Shaikh, and as such, has now become the Shaikh.  And What The Shaikh Then Has Us Do, is to "Serve His Children" by getting our Shaikh to serve them, and God within Him to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "Us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us

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Closing Comments - please give my love and salams to your dearest loving wife, and our dearest loving sister, Angela, and to your dearest loving daughter, and our dearest loving little sister, Jameela, and to your dearest loving son, and our dearest loving brother Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brother and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship


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Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 271

1. Moving Forward God's Story Within Us - in the "Presence of God" within us, by Stopping "Our Story" on the "outside of us, in "Our presence"  on the "outside" of us, by making our mind and desire sit down within us, by allowing our wisdom to stand up within us, that is, before we "Put us into gear" on the "outside" of us, which is how we continue to establish "us" on the "outside" of us, and continue to tell "our" story on the "outside" of us, with each breath, look, word, taste, and thought, and in this way, this is what each of us must learn, in partnership with God within us, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, which is to truly learn how to "step back" on the "outside" of us, so God can "Step Forward" within us, before we "Say or do or write" anything on the "outside" of us, as this child has learned to do.  And in this way, the Choice is ours, not God's

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2. God Has Already Given Us Everything - so what are we to ask of God within us? And the answer is "Nothing".  In this way, rather than asking God for something more, or new, we need to correctly learn to use what we already have been given by God within us, but which we are currently failing to use properly.  That is, in each moment in our life, until our last breath, we need to allow God to use our life, which is our soul life, the pure birth and life within us, and everything He has already give to us, which is what is "Within God" within us, which is "Our Bank" within God within us, which is our heart, to finish what God has already started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is what God placed within us even before we came to this earth world or dunya within us

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3. A Little Story About "Nick" of New York City - that is, about our dearest loving brother Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), or Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as Bawa gave Him both names, about the correct way to "Enter the heart of our Shaikh", or "His Room", or to come together with "His Children", for in truth it is all the same, if we like, that is, if we truly understand "Who we are", and "Where we are", and "What is happening" in our life, for in truth "We" are the "Seed of God" buried within the Earth of God within the earth world within us, that is, within the Creation of God within us, and as such, "Where we are" is within the Creation of God within us, not on the "outside" of  us, as some of My Children still mistakenly believe.  And "What is happening" in our life is, "God is happening" within the Creation of God within us, and within that, "True Man is happening" within "God happening" within the Creation of God within us, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's

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4. God Is Always Saying To Us, "Catch Me If You Can" - as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, are always saying to us, "Catch Me If You Can", and now on the "outside" of us, as His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), are saying to us right now, "Catch Me If You Can", because
They
know something that many of My Children have yet to truly realize on the "outside" of them, and to truly start to live within them, that in truth, "There is nothing on the outside" of us, that Everything is really within us", and in truth, "There is nothing other than God" within us, and in truth "Only God exists" within us, and in truth, "God is One" within us.  Amen
5. What Makes Us Valuable To God Within Us - and to Our Shaikh within us, to our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), and to Bawa within Them, and to God within Bawa within Them, is one thing, and only one thing, and that is, "That We Don't Want Anything", because "We" realize, without the slightest doubt, that in truth, as we have been sharing in the earlier topics, that God has already given us Everything, and that "Only God" can use anything that God has given to us, not "us" in our current state of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, of living as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True"

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6. So What Is God Doing Within Us? - He is telling and bringing to Completion within us "His Story" within us, which is the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, not looking at "us" as "separate from" Him, or deciding what "we" need, as "separate from" Him, for from God's perspective "we" as "separate from" God within us don't exist.  For in truth, from God's perspective "We" are His Story being told within Him, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, "We" are His Story being told in "His Presence" within us, Unless we "Forget God", and turn away from Him within us, turn away from His Presence within us, and what He is doing within us, which is telling and bringing to Completion His Story within us.  Unless we Forget the telling of His Story within us in His Presence within us, causing His Story within us to Stop within us.  That is, Unless in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, we establish "our own presence" on the "outside" of us, and His Presence within us, apparently ends within us, for in truth He is Still Present within us, although we are now acting as if He is "Not Present" within us, and because of this act on our part, His Story within us stops being told within us, in "His Presence" within us, and "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us begins.

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7.  How Do We Catch God? - "We can't Catch God" within us, but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh within us, for that is why we are currently alive on the "outside" of us, that is, caught by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and by God within Him, and as such, if we like, "We are All One" within us, that is, "Us", our Shaikh within us, and God within our Shaikh within us, in truth are "One" within us.  Amen
8.  How Do We Catch Our Shaikh? - by learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does, and what They are doing, is handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return
9.  And What Does Our Shaikh Then Have Us Do? - when "We" have truly become a True Disciple or Devotee of the Shaikh, as One who serves the Shaikh in the correct way, as One who truly surrenders and immerses oneself within the Shaikh, as One within whom the "you" is dead and gone, as One who has truly fallen into the "Fire of the Shaikh", of One who has only the qualities the Shaikh, of One who now exist as "One with" the Shaikh, and as such, has now become the Shaikh.  And then, "What The Shaikh Then Has Us Do", is to "Do What He Does", which is "Serve His Children", by getting our Shaikh within us, to serve them, and God within Him, to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "Us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Us" within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, that became the individual souls reflected through each of our lives on the "outside" of us, which again becomes the "One Soul" that is Muhammad (Sal.) within us, if we like, that is, again becomes Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, when we truly join with God within us to return the 5 elemental lives within us, back to the state of the 5 Angels within us, to the 5 levels of wisdom within us, with Them coming together within us as One within us, as the "Path of The Kalimah" or "The Remembrance of God" within us, as the first 5 of the 7 levels of wisdom within us, which in maturity reveals the 6th level of wisdom within us, from within the 5 levels as "One" within us, and in maturity, revealing the 7th level of wisdom from within the 6th.

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Closing Comments - please give my love and salams to your dearest loving wife, and our dearest loving sister, Angela, and to your dearest loving daughter, and our dearest loving little sister, Jameela, and to your dearest loving son, and our dearest loving brother Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brother and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship

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Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 271

1.  Moving Forward God's Story Within Us  - in the "Presence of God" within us, by Stopping "Our Story" on the "outside of us, in "Our presence"  on the "outside" of us, by making our mind and desire sit down within us, by allowing our wisdom to stand up within us, that is, before we "Put us into gear" on the "outside" of us, which is how we continue to establish "us" on the "outside" of us, and continue to tell "our" story on the "outside" of us, with each breath, look, word, taste, and thought, and in this way, this is what each of us must learn, in partnership with God within us, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, which is to truly learn how to "step back" on the "outside" of us, so God can "Step Forward" within us, before we "Say or do or write" anything on the "outside" of us, as this child has learned to do.  And in this way, the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice about how our life will be used, while "we" are here, in this earth world or dunya, which is really within us, not "outside" of us, as some of My Children still mistakenly believe.  All of which is to either Witness "us" and what "we" think in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, that "we" are doing on the "outside" of us, all of which is "Just Not True" on the "outside" of us, or to join in partnership with God within us, to Witness God within us, and what God is doing within the Creation of God within us, which in truth is revealing God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is both within us, and  "Absolutely True" within us.  That is, to either tell and Complete "our story" on the "outside" of us, "our story" of "separation and differences", for our own "selfish" reasons, like to benefit us, and our family and friends, and at the same time, to harm the family and friends of others, or to join in partnership with God within us to tell and Complete "God's Story" within us.  That is, to use our life in the earth world or dunya within us, to either join in partnership with God within us to tell and bring to Completion "God's Story" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, or to join in partnership with our  mind and desire, and all of the lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, like weeds growing in "God's Beautiful Flower Garden", which in truth is our heart, to tell and bring to Completion "our story" on the "outside" of us, for the benefit of our family and friends, or our community, or our religion or race, because in truth "Only One Story" can be told at a time, not Two, not both, either "God's Story" or "our story", as some of My Children mistakenly still believe

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2. God Has Already Given Us Everything - so what are we to ask of God within us? And the answer is "Nothing".  In this way, rather than asking God for something more, or new, we need to correctly learn to use what we already have been given by God within us, but which we are currently failing to use properly.  That is, in each moment in our life, until our last breath, we need to allow God to use our life, which is our soul life, the pure birth and life within us, and everything He has already give to us, which is what is "Within God" within us, which is "Our Bank" within God within us, which is our heart, to finish what God has already started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is what God placed within us even before we came to this earth world or dunya within us.  That is, to this First of God's Schools within us, to this "School of Contrast" within us, where in truth each of us have come within us.  Which is a temporary place within us, where God sent us to learn about "His History, Your own History, and the History of many others", so through Contrast we can come to understand what is "separating us" from God within us, what is "separating us" from each other, and what is "separating us" from the Creation of God within us. So before we die to the flesh in our current state of "separation and differences", and get an eternal hell of "separation from" God within us, as our eternal reward, we can pass our exams, and graduate from this First of God's Schools within us, from this "School of Contrast" within us, and move on the Next of God's Schools within us, which is the "School of Light" within us, where God will personally and ever so patiently teach us about God within us, and about True Man within God within us, about the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, which is the Story of God within us, and within that, the Story of True Man within the Story of God within us, a Story that we have come to this earth world within us, to join in partnership with God within the Creation of God within us, to tell, if we like.  For the Choice to join in partnership with God within us, to tell and bring to Completion God's Story within us, or not, or to continue "stuck" in our mind and desire, in "our never ending" story on the illusory "outside" of us, which in truth is the story of the very real but false lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, all of which is what God has discarded from within Himself, in partnership with God within Himself, to become God within us, and all of which is not about God within us, or about what God is doing within us, that is, so "We too" can do what God did within Himself earlier, so in partnership with God within us, "We" can become God within the Creation of God within us, and all of which is most certainly our Choice, not God's, since God has already "Made His Choice", and He Chose God within Him, as now "We" must, if our life is to become truly successful in our life time.  Ok?.  In this way, may we make the wise Choice, before it is too late to do so.  Amen

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3.  A Little Story About "Nick" of New York City - that is, about our dearest loving brother Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen, or Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as Bawa gave Him both names, about the correct way to "Enter the heart of our Shaikh", or "His Room", or to come together with "His Children", for in truth it is all the same, if we like, that is, if we truly understand "Who we are", and "Where we are", and "What is happening" in our life, for in truth "We" are the "Seed of God" buried within the Earth of God within the earth world within us, that is, within the Creation of God within us, and as such, "Where we are" is within the Creation of God within us, not on the "outside" of  us, as some of My Children still mistakenly believe.  And "What is happening" in our life is, "God is happening" within the Creation of God within us, and within that, "True Man is happening" within "God happening" within the Creation of God within us, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice to join in partnership with God within us, to let this happen within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, all the time feeding the very real, but false lives within us, which are all of the lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, which will become the "suffering of the grave" within us, and Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within us, if we are not wise, if we do not wise up, before Kalam or "time" within us, which is our arrogance, karma, and illusion within us, leads us to Kalan within us, which is the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him), and the "Justice of God" within us, becomes our eternal fate, for according to the "Justice of God" that God placed within us, "Whatever we intend is what we will receive".  May we Chose wisely, before it is too late.  Amen

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4. God Is Always Saying Within Us, "Catch Me If You Can" - as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, are always saying to us, "Catch Me If You Can", and now on the "outside" of us, as His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), are saying to us right now, "Catch Me If You Can", because They know something that many of My Children have yet to truly realize on the "outside" of them, and to truly start to live within them,

That in truth,

     "There is nothing on the outside" of us, that in truth,
     "Everything is really within us",

And in truth,

     "There is nothing other than God" within us", and in truth
     "Only God exists" within us, and in truth,
     "God is One" within us.  Amen

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5. What Makes Us Valuable To God Within Us - and to Our Shaikh within us, to our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen
(may God be pleased with Him) within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to the Truly Awakened
Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), and to Bawa within Them, and to God within Bawa within Them, is one thing, and only one thing, and that is, "That We Don't Want Anything", because "We" realize, without the slightest doubt, that in truth, as we have been sharing in the earlier topics, that God has already given us Everything, and that "Only God" can use anything that God has given to us, not "us" in our current state of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, of living as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True".  So "What Makes Us Valuable to God Within Us", and to Our Shaikh Within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), is "We" starting to settle into "Stillness" through the realization that "Everything is Perfect", and "We" starting to truly realize, without the slightest doubt, that the most "We" can ever do, is to truly "Step Back" on the "outside" of us, in everything that we "Say or do or write", as this child has learned to do, so God can "Step Forward" within us again, as the "Presence of God" within us, as God within us telling and bringing to Completion  "His Story" within us, which in truth is the "Story of the Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us.  That is, as God was doing before within us, before we "Stopped Him", before "we" Forgot God, and fell into many a trap within us, before we no longer knew to "Seek ourselves within ourselves", that is, before "we" stepped forward on the illusory "outside" of us, and established "Our illusory presence" on the "outside" of us, in this way, with "us" becoming a "Feast of the world" within us, that is, with "us" starting to feed all of the very real but false lives of darkness and evil within us, now with our every breath, look, word, taste, and thought.  And in this way, Stopping God within us from telling and bringing to Completion what God started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is "His Story", the "Story of the Oneness of God and True Man" within us, a Story that like the apple seed, we came to this earth world within us, to tell, that is, a Story that we came to this earth world or dunya within us, to join as "One with" God within the Creation of God within us, to tell, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, the Choice to join with God within us, to tell and Complete His Story within us, or not, is most certainly our Choice, not God's.  May we all Chose wisely, before it is too late to do it, and the "Justice of God" within us, sends us to an eternal hell of "separation from" God within us, not because of anything God within us did, or failed to do, but because that is "What we truly want".  Amen

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6.  So What Is God Doing Within Us? - He is telling and bringing to Completion within us "His Story" within us, which is the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, not looking at "us" as "separate from" Him, or deciding what "we" need, as "separate from" Him, for from God's perspective "we" as "separate from" God within us don't exist.  For in truth, from God's perspective "We" are His Story being told within Him, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, "We" are His Story being told in "His Presence" within us, Unless we "Forget God", and turn away from Him within us, turn away from His Presence within us, and what He is doing within us, which is telling and bringing to Completion His Story within us.  Unless we Forget the telling of His Story within us in His Presence within us, causing His Story within us to Stop within us.  That is, Unless in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, we establish "our own presence" on the "outside" of us, and His Presence within us, apparently ends within us, for in truth He is Still Present within us, although we are now acting as if He is "Not Present" within us, and because of this act on our part, His Story within us stops being told within us, in "His Presence" within us, and "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us begins.  And this, and only this, is what God is doing within us, telling His Story within us, in "His Presence" within us, and this, only this, is why He stops telling His Story within us, in "His Presence" within us, because we have started to act like "we are present" on the "outside" of us, and that He is no longer "Present" within us, all of which is "Just Not True".  All of which is just like what an apple tree is doing and what an apple tree is only doing, while growing in the earth, and that is, telling its story in "Its Presence".  Everything else that we associate with God within us, other than this, other than God telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, in "His Presence" within us, is but a reflection of our drama, of the drama of "I and you" and of "mine and yours" on the "outside" of us, that has grown within us, in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, and that now rule over us as the 9 openings of our elemental body, with "God's Permission", until we "See God and Steady God" within us.  For example, God is telling His Story within us, like an apple tree is telling its story on the "outside" of us, as an external example of what each of us must do within us, in partnership with God within us.  That is, the apple tree is telling "Its Story" on the "outside" of us, as an example of "Us" within us, which is the story of the "Oneness of the Apple Tree and Its Apples", a Story that has been hidden by God within each apple seed, a Story of the "Apple Tree", and within that the Story of the "Apple Fruit", that can be told from within each apple seed, from each apple seed that has fallen from the apple tree, from within each of its fruits, from within each of its apple seeds that have become buried within the same earth that the apple tree is growing within.  That is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, and germinates to the truth within it, that is, if it likes, for like all people, not all apple seeds germinate to the truth within them, that is, germinate to the truth within it, before it rots in the earth and dies, and becomes subject to 105 million rebirths, but never again as an apple seed.  That is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, before it is too late, that is, to the reality that it is an apple seed buried within the earth, and that the earth contains everything necessary for the apple tree hidden within the apple seed to grow, and to become an apple tree growing in the earth, from which it has come, and has now returned, by becoming its source, allowing the apple tree to happen again, but this time within a new apple seed. And so it is with each of us, we are the "Seed of God" buried within the Creation of God within us, just waiting to germinate to the truth hidden within us by God, by our Creator, that is, when we truly become awakened to the reality of us, and join with this reality, even if it means that "we" must die to the "outside" of us, that is, die to "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us, that is, even if it means that "we" must let "us" as "separate from" come to an end on the "outside" of us.  And in this way, an only in this way, to be born to the true reality within us, which is our "Oneness with" within us, which is "The Presence of God" within us, telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, that is, the "Story of God" within us, and within that the "Story of True Man" within the "Story of God" within the Creation of God within us, before it is too late.  That is, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, in partnership with God within us, and we rot in our mind and desire, and eventually die to the flesh in our current state, in our current state of "separate from" on the "outside" of us.  And after the "suffering of the grave" within us, we get as part of our judgment within us, as part of Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within us, 105 million rebirths, but never again as the "Seed of God" within us, never again as the "Story of God" within us, a Story that we came to this earth world within us, to join as "One with" God within us, to tell, if we like.  For the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice to use our life in this way or not, like the apple seed that becomes aware of itself, accepting and joining with the reality of itself, letting the falsehood of itself end, so the truth of itself can be told, and revealed, for the benefit of Everyone.  And in this way, and only in this way, making its life truly successful in its lifetime.  Amen.  May we all Chose wisely, and like the rain falling back into the ocean, from which it has come, having completed its duty as rain, with "Us" again becoming "One with" the ocean of God's Grace, Wisdom, and Ilm or divine knowledge within us, no longer existing as "separate from" this Ocean of God within us, from which "We" have come, no longer existing as the rain, as the rain of the 400 trillion 10 thousand spiritual energies within us, that now rule over us as our thoughts, and our actions.  For as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, teach us for our age, and now on the "outside" of us, as His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us) are teaching us right now, in this Spiritual Chat,

     "All that you see is a dream.
     All that you do is just a thought within that dream.
     All that you appear as is hidden.

     "Life is a feast of the world,
     Its Medicine is a time after a time,

     (Its Medicine Is the Remembrance of God within us,
     With each breath, look, word, taste, and through,
     Until our last breath,
     Realizing that whether or not we are alive in the next moment,
     Is His will, not ours,
     May His will be done.  Amen)"

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7. How Do We Catch God? - "We can't Catch God", but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh, by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and by God within Him.  Amen

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8.  How Do We Catch Our Shaikh? - by learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does, and what They are doing, is handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return

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9. And What Does Our Shaikh Then Have Us Do? - when "We" have truly become a True Disciple or Devotee of the Shaikh, as One who serves the Shaikh in the correct way, as One who truly surrenders and immerses oneself within the Shaikh, as One within whom the "you" is dead and gone, as One who has truly fallen into the "Fire of the Shaikh", of One who has only the qualities the Shaikh, of One who now exist as "One with" the Shaikh, and as such, has now become the Shaikh.  And What The Shaikh Then Has Us Do, is to "Serve His Children" by getting our Shaikh to serve them, and God within Him to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "Us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, that became the individual souls reflected through our life on the "outside" of us, which again becomes the "One Soul" within us, if we like, that is, again becomes Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, when we truly join with God within us to return the 5 elemental lives within us, back to the state of the 5 Angels within us, coming together as One within us, as the Kalimah or "Remembrance of God" within us, as the first 5 of the 7 levels of wisdom within us, which in maturity revealing the 6th level of wisdom from within the 5, and in maturity revealing the 7th level of wisdom from within the 6th

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Closing Comments - please give my love and salams to your dearest loving wife, and our dearest loving sister, Angela, and to your dearest loving daughter, and our dearest loving little sister, Jameela, and to your dearest loving son, and our dearest loving brother Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brother and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship

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Text of Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 274
1.  Moving Forward God's Story Within Us - in the "Presence of God" within us, by Stopping "Our Story" on the "outside of us, in "Our presence"  on the "outside" of us, by making our mind and desire sit down within us, by allowing our wisdom to stand up within us, that is, before we "Put us into gear" on the "outside" of us, which is how we continue to establish "us" on the "outside" of us, and continue to tell "our" story on the "outside" of us, with each breath, look, word, taste, and thought, and in this way, this is what each of us must learn, in partnership with God within us, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, which is to truly learn how to "step back" on the "outside" of us, so God can "Step Forward" within us, before we "Say or do or write" anything on the "outside" of us, as this child has learned to do.  And in this way, the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice about how our life will be used, while "we" are here, in this earth world or dunya, which is really within us, not "outside" of us, as some of My Children still mistakenly believe.  All of which is to either Witness "us" and what "we" think in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, that "we" are doing on the "outside" of us, all of which is "Just Not True" on the "outside" of us, or to join in partnership with God within us, to Witness God within us, and what God is doing within the Creation of God within us, which in truth is revealing God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is both within us, and  "Absolutely True" within us.  That is, to either tell and Complete "our story" on the "outside" of us, "our story" of "separation and differences", for our own "selfish" reasons, like to benefit us, and our family and friends, and at the same time, to harm the family and friends of others, or to join in partnership with God within us to tell and Complete "God's Story" within us.  That is, to use our life in the earth world or dunya within us, to either join in partnership with God within us to tell and bring to Completion "God's Story" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, or to join in partnership with our  mind and desire, and all of the lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, like weeds growing in "God's Beautiful Flower Garden", which in truth is our heart, to tell and bring to Completion "our story" on the "outside" of us, for the benefit of our family and friends, or our community, or our religion or race, because in truth "Only One Story" can be told at a time, not Two, not both, as some of My Children mistakenly still believe

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem. Al salaam 'alaykum my dear brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen. May the Peace and Blessings of Allah, Rasoul and Muhaiyaddeen be with you and with your beautiful family. My love you. Anbu.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate.
Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam, my dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman.
Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. And what does my dearest loving brother have to share about God within him, and what is "Within God" within him, and what God is doing with what is "Within God" within Him?

2.  God Has Already Given Us Everything - so what are we to ask of God within us? And the answer is "Nothing".  In this way, rather than asking God for something more, or new, we need to correctly learn to use what we already have been given by God within us, but which we are currently failing to use properly.  That is, in each moment in our life, until our last breath, we need to allow God to use our life, which is our soul life, the pure birth and life within us, and everything He has already give to us, which is what is "Within God" within us, which is "Our Bank" within God within us, which is our heart, to finish what God has already started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is what God placed within us even before we came to this earth world or dunya within us.  That is, to this First of God's Schools within us, to this "School of Contrast" within us, where in truth each of us have come within us.  Which is a temporary place within us, where God sent us to learn about "His History, Your own History, and the History of many others", so through Contrast we can come to understand what is "separating us" from God within us, what is "separating us" from each other, and what is "separating us" from the Creation of God within us. So before we die to the flesh in our current state of "separation and differences", and get an eternal hell of "separation from" God within us, as our eternal reward, we can pass our exams, and graduate from this First of God's Schools within us, from this "School of Contrast" within us, and move on the Next of God's Schools within us, which is the "School of Light" within us, where God will personally and ever so patiently teach us about God within us, and about True Man within God within us, about the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, which is the Story of God within us, and within that, the Story of True Man within the Story of God within us, a Story that we have come to this earth world within us, to join in partnership with God within the Creation of God within us, to tell, if we like.  For the Choice to join in partnership with God within us, to tell and bring to Completion God's Story within us, or not, or to continue "stuck" in our mind and desire, in "our never ending" story on the illusory "outside" of us, which in truth is the story of the very real but false lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, all of which is what God has discarded from within Himself, in partnership with God within Himself, to become God within us, and all of which is not about God within us, or about what God is doing within us, that is, so "We too" can do what God did within Himself earlier, so in partnership with God within us, "We" can become God within the Creation of God within us, and all of which is most certainly our Choice, not God's, since God has already "Made His Choice", and He Chose God within Him, as now "We" must, if our life is to become truly successful in our life time.  Ok?.  In this way, may we make the wise Choice, before it is too late to do so.  Amen

[Note:  See Spiritual Chat 275, "God Has Already Given Us Everything, So Our Work Is To Join With God Within Us, To Correctly Use What We Already Have, Not Mistakenly Ask For Something More or New", for more on this Wisdom Point. To access Spiritual Chat 275, please click above or HERE (www.SpiritualChat275.
homestread.com).  Thank you.  Enjoy.  Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Do we have time for some wisdom sharing tonight?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Yes, we have time, as God has given us this time, to move forward in our understanding of Him, of what is "within Him", and of what He is doing with what is "within Him".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Let us see what He has to tell us at this time.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa.  That is, if we like, or we can use the time to talk about Curtis and Louie, the Choice is ours.  So what is your Choice?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Let's go with what God has for us. I'm kind of tired of hearing about Curtis and Louie right now.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.

Bawa. But God doesn't have anything for "us", for the concept of "us", of :"us" living as if we are "separate from" God, as if we are "separate from" each other, and as if we are "separate from' the Creation of God within us, is uniquely "our concept" in our current state of "separation and differences", that is, in "our presence" on the "outside" of us, with "us" joining with our mind and desire, with each breath, each look, with each word, with each taste, and with each thought, to tell and try to bring to completion "our story" on the "outside" of us, and is not, in any shaper or form, part of God within us, or of what is "Within God" within us, or of what God is doing with what is "Within God" within us, that is, is not part of the "Presence of God" within us, or part of the "Story of God" within us, or of the "Story of True Man" within God within us. Ok?

Bawa.  For all that God is doing within us is telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, which He will gladly do within us, like an apple tree will gladly appear within each apple seed that is buried within the earth, as long as it realizes, understands, accepts, and joins with the truth of itself, and of the apple tree hidden within it, and germinates to the truth within it, letting the "Truth surrender to the Truth" within it..

Bawa.  And in a similar way, God will gladly continue to tell His Story within us, and bring it to Completion within us, as long as we join in partnership with God within us, rather than with our mind and desire, to realize, understand, accept, and join with the truth of us, and of God hidden within us, and germinate to the truth of us, and to the Truth of God within us, and germinate to the truth within us, letting the "Truth surrender to the Truth" within us.

Bawa.  That is, as long as "we" are not telling and trying to bring to Completion "Our story" on the "outside" of us.

Bawa.  So if we "sit down", that is, if we can learn how to join in partnership with God within us, to make our mind and desire sit down within us, God will automatically stand up within us. then our life will truly become successful in our lifetime, like an apple tree that germinates to the truth within it, destroying the apple seed of itself, and revealing the apple tree of itself, so the fruits of itself can occur, and the sweet taste within the apple fruits, but again the seed, the apple seed.

Bawa.  And in this way, God does not "see" us as "we' talk about ourselves.

Bawa.  For,

"God is a Power.  He has no form or shape.  He is alone, and yet He is everywhere, existing as an Eternal Power, which dwells within all lives and sees them all as One"

[Note:  See the "Opening Prayer" to the beautiful book of wisdom, "A Mystical Journey", by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, by His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), if we like.  To access an on-line copy of the "Table of Contents", of "A Mystical Journey", please click above or HERE.  Once there, click on "Opening Prayer".  Thank you.  Enjoy.  Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]

Bawa.  For doing what you said is not in truth how God is within us, or how "We are" within God within us, or how God does what He does within us, or how we should be relating to God within us, which is as "His Witness' of Him, revealing Him to Him, for the benefit of Him, for in truth, "There is nothing other than God' within us, and "Only God exists" within us, and "God is One" within us.  Amen.

Bawa.  For example, you say,

"Let us see what He has to tell us at this time."

And you say,

"Let's go with what God has for us."

Bawa.  For in truth God has nothing to "tell us at this time", nor does God have "anything for us", as you say.

Bawa.  What you said is like asking what the TV has to tell us, for in truth it is "we" who determine what we will watch on the TV, by the Choice we make, and so it is with God, so what is your Choice, Louie has already given you his Choice?

3.  A Little Story About "Nick" of New York City - that is, about our dearest loving brother Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen, or Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as Bawa gave Him both names, about the correct way to "Enter the heart of our Shaikh", or "His Room", or to come together with "His Children", for in truth it is all the same, if we like, that is, if we truly understand "Who we are", and "Where we are", and "What is happening" in our life, for in truth "We" are the "Seed of God" buried within the Earth of God within the earth world within us, which is within the Creation of God within us, and as such, "Where we are" is within the Creation of God within us, and "What is happening" in our life is, "God is happening" within the Creation of God within us, and within that, "True Man is happening" within "God happening" within the Creation of God within us, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, the Choice to join in partnership with God within us, to let this happen within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, all the time feeding the very real, but false lives within us, which are all of the lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, which will become the "suffering of the grave" within us, and Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within us, if we are not wise, if we do not wise up, before Kalam or "time" within us, which is our arrogance, karma, and illusion within us, leads us to Kalan within us, which is the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him), and the "Justice of God" within us, becomes our eternal fate, for according to the "Justice of God" that God placed within us, "Whatever we intend is what we will receive".  May we Chose wisely, before it is too late.  Amen

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.

Bawa. A little story. Nick from New York used to drive down to the Ship for NY each week, like William from Canada, used to drive down from Canada each week, to see our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him.

Bawa. And the story goes that Nick (Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen, and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, as Bawa gave Him both names), used to listen to the two discourses and one song that Bawa gave to us on April 26, 1972, on the "One Good Day In a 100 Years, so when he finally got to Bawa's room, he had been preparing himself for this time with Bawa properly, not just wandering into the room to "see what was happening" as many did, to see what Bawa had for us.

Bawa.  So too my dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman, with "us" coming together daily, as we are right now, "we" need to prepare for this time, for this time at the "Feet of God" for our age, prepare for this time as the most important time of the day, for what we get out of it will be completely determined by what we put into it, before we come together. Ok?

Bawa.  Always remembering what Jesus (peace be upon Him) told us over 2000 years ago, and what our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, also teach us for our age, and what now on the "outside" of us, His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us) are teaching us right now, in this Spiritual Chat, that is,

"If two of you come together in "My Name", I will be there (that is, the "Presence of God" will be established within us, allowing us to sit on God's lap within us, as our wisdom teaches us "what we do not know", as we "watch the drama" on the "outside" of us "All Together", that is, as "One", that is, as the "Power within the Essence of Everything".  Amen"

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So spend you day, as much as your can, preparing for "this time", by prayer, by reading, by searching for God's intention, gradually collecting a feeling for what this time should produce, with faith in God that God will then deliver, and not just "us", "wondering into the room" to see what is happening, to see what God has for us today. Ok?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So in truth what you get, and what this child gets, from "this time" Together with our awakened wisdom, joined as One with our liberated soul, in search of God within us, is determined by "us", not by Bawa within us, or by God within Him.
Bawa.  That is, what we get from coming together in "His Name", so "He can be there" within us, and teach us "what we do not know", is our Choice, not God, and not Bawa's.
Bawa.  For in truth, each time we come together in "His Name" in this way, is in truth the Angel Gabriel (peace be upon Him) within us, coming together with the Prophet Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, in the Prophet's Cave within us, right outside of Mecca within us, squeezing the Prophet of God three times, saying to Him,

"Read!  Read!  In the name of God who created man from a sensitive drop of blood, and teaches him what "he does not know", Read!"

Bawa. For such is the true significance of our coming together in this way, as two Children of God for our age, at the Feet of God for our age, So God can "Be There", and complete what God has started within us, within each of us, if we like, which is to reveal God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us.

Bawa.  And in this way, the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, the Choice of what happens in our Spiritual Chats, is completely determined by us, not by Bawa within us, or by God within Him. Ok?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. This is like what was shared in "Spiritual Chat 271",

"Stop Leading Us To Hell Within you. Step Back, And Let God Embrace Us Within You"

[Note:  Click HERE to access an on-line copy of Spiritual Chat 271 (www.SpiritualChat 271.homestead.com).  Thank you.  Enjoy.  Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]

Bawa. That is, you have to learn how to "Catch God and put Him to work" within you, Bawa.  All of which is something that you, and most of My Children, have yet to do, my dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman.  Ok?

4.  God Is Always Saying Within Us, "Catch Me If You Can" - as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, are always saying to us, "Catch Me If You Can", and now on the "outside" of us, as His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), are saying to us right now, "Catch Me If You Can", because They know something that many of My Children have yet to truly realize on the "outside" of them, and to truly start to live within them, that in truth, "There is nothing on the outside" of us, that Everything is really within us", and in truth, "There is nothing other than God" within us, and in truth "Only God exists" within us, and in truth, "God is One" within us.  Amen

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. For example, what is God saying to "us", all the time, from within us?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Ok, I understand. Before this child signed on I was just out walking around (past your house in fact) and really trying to focus on praying with Bawa with the intention that He clear away any desires, attachments, mind noise, wants that I have so that I could hear Him clearly speak to me. I was praying one of the surahs (I forget its name) and asking that Bawa destroy me and reveal Him.
I finally came up with a request for Bawa (other than that He destroy me and reveal Him) that he teach me to know how to ask questions of Him and how to hear and understand the answers that He gives. Asking that He clear away anything that might interfere with a clarity of understanding (such as mind, desire, attachments, etc.)

(Getting to the answer to your question after I send this.)

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. I guess that this is still in the realm of separating myself from Bawa but this is what came out of my prayers during this walk.

What is God saying to "us" all the time? Something like, "Here am I. Where are you." would be this child's guess.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. No, you have it all backwards.  What God is saying to us is one thing, and one thing alone, and that is, "Catch Me if you can".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Then we have to use God to catch God, correct?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. An interesting answer, but before we answer that, here is another related question.
Bawa.  What is our Shaikh saying to us all the time?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. "What do you need?"

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Again, you have it all backwards, what the Shaikh is saying to us, and only saying to us, is, "Catch Me if you can".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Ok. Please go on.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. And finally, what are the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), Those who truly knows that "They can fly", saying to us?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah.  I do not know.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. What the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), that is, Those who truly knows that "They can fly", are saying to us, and are only saying to us, is, "Catch Me if you can".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah.  It would appear that this child is not doing a very good job of catching either one.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Yes, except for what is leading you to hell, to an eternal hell of "separation from" God within you, you have certainly and most definitely learned how to catch "Curtis" living a life of "selfishness" on the "outside" of us.  For example, by walking around asking Bawa within you, and God within Him, to give you, and give you, and give you, on and on and on. Ok?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Ok. I understand.

5.  What Makes Us Valuable To God Within Us - and to Our Shaikh within us, to our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), and to Bawa within Them, and to God within Bawa within Them, is one thing, and only one thing, and that is, "That We Don't Want Anything", because "We" realize, without the slightest doubt, that in truth, as we have been sharing in the earlier topics, that God has already given us Everything, and that "Only God" can use anything that God has given to us, not "us" in our current state of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, of living as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True".  So "What Makes Us Valuable to God Within Us", and to Our Shaikh Within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), is "We" starting to settle into "Stillness" through the realization that "Everything is Perfect", and "We" starting to truly realize, without the slightest doubt, that the most "We" can ever do, is to truly "Step Back" on the "outside" of us, in everything that we "Say or do or write", as this child has learned to do, so God can "Step Forward" within us again, as the "Presence of God" within us, as God within us telling and bringing to Completion  "His Story" within us, which in truth is the "Story of the Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us.  That is, as God was doing before within us, before we "Stopped Him", before "we" Forgot God, and fell into many a trap within us, before we no longer knew to "Seek ourselves within ourselves", that is, before "we" stepped forward on the illusory "outside" of us, and established "Our illusory presence" on the "outside" of us, in this way, with "us" becoming a "Feast of the world" within us, that is, with "us" starting to feed all of the very real but false lives of darkness and evil within us, now with our every breath, look, word, taste, and thought.  And in this way, Stopping God within us from telling and bringing to Completion what God started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is "His Story", the "Story of the Oneness of God and True Man" within us, a Story that like the apple seed, we came to this earth world within us, to tell, that is, a Story that we came to this earth world or dunya within us, to join as "One with" God within the Creation of God within us, to tell, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, the Choice to join with God within us, to tell and Complete His Story within us, or not, is most certainly our Choice, not God's.  May we all Chose wisely, before it is too late to do it, and the "Justice of God" within us, sends us to an eternal hell of "separation from" God within us, not because of anything God within us did, or failed to do, but because that is "What we truly want".  Amen

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Ok, now that you are completely confused, which is a wonderful thing, lets put it all back together again, but this time correctly. Ok?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah.  Sounds good to me.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. What makes you valuable to God, or to your Shaikh, or to a truly awakened Child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us)?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. That soul that God placed within each of us before we came to this world.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Sure, but that is like saying what makes the earth valuable are the gems, and gold buried within it, but not if you can't harvest it from the earth.
Bawa. What makes your valuable to God, or to your Shaikh, or to a truly awakened Child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), is if "you don't want anything".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Ok, I understand.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. For like the gems and gold buried within the earth, what if the earth wanted something, like to keep its trees, and its hills, and its valleys, the way they are, because it believe that this is what defined the earth. Of what value would the earth be then to someone who know how to harvest the gems and gold from the earth?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. No value at all.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So of what value are you to God, or to your Shaikh, or to a truly enlightened Child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of us), who truly could awaken the wisdom surrounding your soul, liberate your soul, and join it with the Nur, establishing True Prayer within you, allowing God to tell and Complete His Story within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you, if you refuse to give up Curtis, and the desires and attachments of Curtis, on the illusory "outside" of you, and refuse to let Them, close down the world of hell, of jinns, and of fairies within you, which are the sections below your waist, your stomach, and your chest, and re-open the world of souls within you, and then open the kingdom of God within you, because you think all of this "Stuff of Curtis", defines you, but all of which must go, if your soul is to be liberated?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Of no value at all.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Do you begin to see why "We" must come together daily, so this way of thinking, and acting can be changed, day by day, that is, from "selfishness to selflessness", and from "your presence" on the "outside" of you, to "God's Presence" within you?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Yes I see and that is certainly my intention to do this.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. For in truth, this is what Bawa meant, when He said, "You must daily weed the garden, so the Flowers can grow". Ok?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. All right, now what's next?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So what makes you valuable to God, to your Shaikh, and to a truly enlightened Child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), is if you will join Them in what They are doing, instead of having your "own agenda". Ok?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Very good. I will do that.

6.  So What Is God Doing Within Us? - He is telling and bringing to Completion within us "His Story" within us, which is the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, not looking at "us" as "separate from" Him, or deciding what "we" need, as "separate from" Him, for from God's perspective "we" as "separate from" God within us don't exist.  For in truth, from God's perspective "We" are His Story being told within Him, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, "We" are His Story being told in "His Presence" within us, Unless we "Forget God", and turn away from Him within us, turn away from His Presence within us, and what He is doing within us, which is telling and bringing to Completion His Story within us.  Unless we Forget the telling of His Story within us in His Presence within us, causing His Story within us to Stop within us.  That is, Unless in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, we establish "our own presence" on the "outside" of us, and His Presence within us, apparently ends within us, for in truth He is Still Present within us, although we are now acting as if He is "Not Present" within us, and because of this act on our part, His Story within us stops being told within us, in "His Presence" within us, and "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us begins.  And this, and only this, is what God is doing within us, telling His Story within us, in "His Presence" within us, and this, only this, is why He stops telling His Story within us, in "His Presence" within us, because we have started to act like "we are present" on the "outside" of us, and that He is no longer "Present" within us, all of which is "Just Not True".  All of which is just like what an apple tree is doing and what an apple tree is only doing, while growing in the earth, and that is, telling its story in "Its Presence".  Everything else that we associate with God within us, other than this, other than God telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, in "His Presence" within us, is but a reflection of our drama, of the drama of "I and you" and of "mine and yours" on the "outside" of us, that has grown within us, in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, and that now rule over us as the 9 openings of our elemental body, with "God's Permission", until we "See God and Steady God" within us.  For example, God is telling His Story within us, like an apple tree is telling its story on the "outside" of us, as an external example of what each of us must do within us, in partnership with God within us.  That is, the apple tree is telling "Its Story" on the "outside" of us, as an example of "Us" within us, which is the story of the "Oneness of the Apple Tree and Its Apples", a Story that has been hidden by God within each apple seed, a Story of the "Apple Tree", and within that the Story of the "Apple Fruit", that can be told from within each apple seed, from each apple seed that has fallen from the apple tree, from within each of its fruits, from within each of its apple seeds that have become buried within the same earth that the apple tree is growing within.  That is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, and germinates to the truth within it, that is, if it likes, for like all people, not all apple seeds germinate to the truth within them, that is, germinate to the truth within it, before it rots in the earth and dies, and becomes subject to 105 million rebirths, but never again as an apple seed.  That is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, before it is too late, that is, to the reality that it is an apple seed buried within the earth, and that the earth contains everything necessary for the apple tree hidden within the apple seed to grow, and to become an apple tree growing in the earth, from which it has come, and has now returned, by becoming its source, allowing the apple tree to happen again, but this time within a new apple seed. And so it is with each of us, we are the "Seed of God" buried within the Creation of God within us, just waiting to germinate to the truth hidden within us by God, by our Creator, that is, when we truly become awakened to the reality of us, and join with this reality, even if it means that "we" must die to the "outside" of us, that is, die to "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us, that is, even if it means that "we" must let "us" as "separate from" come to an end on the "outside" of us.  And in this way, an only in this way, to be born to the true reality within us, which is our "Oneness with" within us, which is "The Presence of God" within us, telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, that is, the "Story of God" within us, and within that the "Story of True Man" within the "Story of God" within the Creation of God within us, before it is too late.  That is, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, in partnership with God within us, and we rot in our mind and desire, and eventually die to the flesh in our current state, in our current state of "separate from" on the "outside" of us.  And after the "suffering of the grave" within us, we get as part of our judgment within us, as part of Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within us, 105 million rebirths, but never again as the "Seed of God" within us, never again as the "Story of God" within us, a Story that we came to this earth world within us, to join as "One with" God within us, to tell, if we like.  For the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice to use our life in this way or not, like the apple seed that becomes aware of itself, accepting and joining with the reality of itself, letting the falsehood of itself end, so the truth of itself can be told, and revealed, for the benefit of Everyone.  And in this way, and only in this way, making its life truly successful in its lifetime.  Amen.  May we all Chose wisely, and like the rain falling back into the ocean, from which it has come, having completed its duty as rain, with "Us" again becoming "One with" the ocean of God's Grace, Wisdom, and Ilm or divine knowledge within us, no longer existing as "separate from" this Ocean of God within us, from which "We" have come, no longer existing as the rain, as the rain of the 400 trillion 10 thousand spiritual energies within us, that now rule over us as our thoughts, and our actions.  For as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, teach us for our age, and now on the "outside" of us, as His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us) are teaching us right now, in this Spiritual Chat,

"All that you see is a dream.
All that you do is just a thought within that dream.
All that you appear as is hidden.

"Life is a feast of the world,
Its Medicine is a time after a time,
(Is the Remembrance of God within us,
With each breath, look, word, taste, and through,
Until our last breath,
Realizing that whether or not we are alive in the next moment,
Is His will, not ours,
May His will be done.  Amen)"

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So what is God doing?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Waiting for us to catch Him?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamd lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. No, from God's perspective "we" don't exist, "we" are His Story being told, in "His Presence", until we "Forget God", until in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, we establish "our presence" on the "outside" of us, and His Story within us, stops, and "our story" on the "outside" of us begin. 
Bawa. And this is your current state. Each day you are living in "your presence" on the "outside" of you, telling "your story", witnessing Curtis living a life of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of you, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" each of your brothers and sisters, and as if you are "separate from" the Creation of God within you, all of which is "Just Not True".

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. What God is doing is just that, telling His Story, just like an apple tree is doing just that, telling its story, within each apple seed that has fallen from the apple tree, within its fruits, and has become buried within the earth, that is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, and germinates to the truth within it, that is, that it is an apple seed buried within the earth, and that the earth contains everything necessary for the apple tree hidden within the apple seed to grow and to become an apple tree growing in the earth.

Bawa. So too God is telling His story in each of us, that is, as the "Seeds of God", which is our soul, which has come to this earth world or dunya within us, and become buried within the earth, that is, if the "we" as the "Seed of God" awakens to the reality of ourselves, and germinates to the truth within us, that is, that "we" are the "Seed of God" buried within the "Earth of God", which is the Creation of God within us, and that the earth or Creation of God within us contains everything necessary for the "Tree of God" hidden within us, hidden within the "Seed of God" within us, to grow and become the "Tree of God" known as Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us.

Bawa. That is, the "Tree of God" within us, with the tap root of "Ill Allahu, La illaha" (You are Allah.  There is nothing other than God) within us, with the trunk of Iman , with the branches of the 124,000 Heavenly Beings, Prophets, and Lights of God, and the "Fruit of God" as the 6,666 verses of the Holy Qur'an, which in truth is "The Pearl of Wisdom", growing within the earth world within us.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. And along with the soul comes the wisdom surrounding the soul, as the Guardian of the Soul, which is the 6th level of wisdom within us, the wisdom of the Qutbiyyat of God within us, which is the grace of the Dhat or the Essence of God within us, which we awaken with the "Word of God" for our age, allowing the awakened wisdom to liberate our soul, and in the process, allowing it to destroy our illusory life on the "outside" of us, and the lives of darkness and evil within us, which are all very, very real but false within us.  For example, the life of "Curtis" living on the "outside" of himself, so he can sin, so he can live a life of "selfishness", of "separation and differences".

Bawa. So the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, will you join with your awakened wisdom, to do battle with the Enemy of your soul, which is your current life on the "outside" of you, gradually allowing the awakened wisdom to pull out the 5 nails of "your desire" to live on the "outside" of you and sin.

7.  How Do We Catch God? - "We can't Catch God", but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh, by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and by God within Him.  Amen

Bawa. And that is what it means "Catch Me if you can", that is, God say, "Get Me to tell and bring to Completion My Story within you", if you can. Ok?

Bawa. And therefore, How do we Catch God?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. We must use the wisdom surrounding our soul which is the Qutbiyyat of God which is Bawa Muhaiyaddeen and we do this by saying "Bawa" or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" or "Shaikh Muhamad Raheem Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" before we say or do or write anything.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. An interesting answer, but no.
Bawa. The answer is, "We can't Catch God", but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh.

8.  How Do We Catch Our Shaikh? - by learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does, and what They are doing, is handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return

Bawa. So how do we "Catch our Shaikh"?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. By learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes.
Bawa. And what are They, that is, Those who have already caught our Shaikh doing, that we must join Them in doing, and dedicate our entire life, and energies to?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. They are handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return.

9.  And What Does Our Shaikh Then Have Us Do? - when "We" have truly become a True Disciple or Devotee of the Shaikh, as One who serves the Shaikh in the correct way, as One who truly surrenders and immerses oneself within the Shaikh, as One within whom the "you" is dead and gone, as One who has truly fallen into the "Fire of the Shaikh", of One who has only the qualities the Shaikh, of One who now exist as "One with" the Shaikh, and as such, has now become the Shaikh.  And What The Shaikh Then Has Us Do, is to "Serve His Children" by getting our Shaikh to serve them, and God within Him to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "Us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, that became the individual souls reflected through our life on the "outside" of us, which again becomes the "One Soul" within us, if we like, that is, again becomes Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, when we truly join with God within us to return the 5 elemental lives within us, back to the state of the 5 Angels within us, coming together as One within us, as the Kalimah or "Remembrance of God" within us, as the first 5 of the 7 levels of wisdom within us, which in maturity revealing the 6th level of wisdom from within the 5, and in maturity revealing the 7th level of wisdom from within the 6th.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes,
Bawa. And what Does our Shaikh have them do with their life, in service to Him, and to God within Him?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah.  I am not sure what He has them do.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. A very, very, very good answer Grass-Hopper.
Bawa. What the Shaikh has them do, each moment of their life, is to "Serve His Children", but to "Serve them" without "Serving them", that is, by always stepping back when they are before "His Children" and doing what you shared earlier,

"We must use the wisdom surrounding our soul which is the Qutbiyyat of God, which is Bawa Muhaiyaddeen, and we do this by saying "Bawa" or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" or "Shaikh Muhamad Raheem Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" before we "Say or do or write" anything".

Bawa. That is, by "Serving His Children" by getting our Shaikh to serve them, and God within Him to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, that became the individual souls reflected through our life on the "outside" of us, which again becomes the "One Soul" within us, if we like, that is, again becomes Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, when we truly join with God within us to return the 5 elemental lives within us, back into the state of the 5 Angels within us, coming together as One within us, as the Kalimah or "Remembrance of God" within us, as the first 5 of the 7 levels of wisdom within us, which in maturity revealing the 6th level of wisdom from within the 5, and in maturity revealing the 7th level of wisdom from within the 6th.

Closing Comments - please give my love and salams to your dearest loving wife, and our dearest loving sister, Angela, and to your dearest loving daughter, and our dearest loving little sister, Jameela, and to your dearest loving son, and our dearest loving brother Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brother and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Enough for tonight?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Yes, my dear brother. I believe that is enough for tonight. Insha Allah we will meet again tomorrow night for more sharing.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all.  May God help us all. Amen.
Bawa. Please give my love and salams to your dearest loving wife, and our dearest loving sister, Angela, and to your dearest loving daughter, and our dearest loving little sister, Jameela, and to your dearest loving son, and our dearest loving brother Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brother and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship. (more)

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in our prayers.

Bawa. And as always, please join in partnership with Bawa within us, and with God within Him, to share this sharing with them, to "Serve His Children" in this way, by getting Him to "Serve Them", in this way, by doing what you shared when you are before them, seeing what needs to be done to "Serve them", and then stepping back, so God can step forward within you, and start to tell His Story again within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you, and within each of Us.  Amen.

Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. My love you. Please give my love to your beautiful wife Crisi and to Susan and Lisa and to their families and to my little brother Noah. Please tell them that  Muhamad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman loves them very much. Meechum, Meechum Anbu.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Amen.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. While reviewing our chat, Bawa within us, and God within Him, gave our chat the following Title:

"God Says To Us,
'Catch Me If You Can'"


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Title of Chat:  "God Says To Us From Within Us,
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Date of Chat:  June 27, 2006
Chat Between:  Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler)
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Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most
Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa
'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the
beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all. May God help us all.

Bawa. My love you (anbu), my dearest loving brothers and sisters.

Bawa. Here is an Outline & Summary Version of a beautiful Spiritual Chat between our dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and our dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) for your reading, and hopefully your sharing enjoyment.

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Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following names or titles, to reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the feet of God for our age, which in truth is the feet of our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of us living in this age, if we like, that is, if the true intention for our life within us, for our soul life, is to again become "One with" God within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True".

"God Says To Us From Within Us,
Catch Me If You Can"

Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler)

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1.  Moving Forward God's Story Within Us - in the "Presence of God" within us, by Stopping "Our Story" on the "outside of us, in "Our presence"  on the "outside" of us
2.  God Has Already Given Us Everything - so what are we to ask of God within us? And the answer is "Nothing".  In this way, rather than asking God for something more, or new, we need to correctly learn to use what we already have been given by God within us, but which we are currently failing to use properly

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3.  A Little Story About "Nick" of New York City - that is, about our dearest loving brother Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen, or Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as Bawa gave Him both names, about the correct way to "Enter the heart of our Shaikh", or "His Room", or to come together with "His Children", for in truth it is all the same, if we like, that is, if we truly understand "Who we are", and "Where we are", and "What is happening" in our life
4.  God Is Always Saying To Us, "Catch Me If You Can" - as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, are always saying to us, "Catch Me If You Can", and now on the "outside" of us, as His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), are saying to us right now, "Catch Me If You Can", because They know something that many of My Children have yet to truly realize on the "outside" of them, and to truly start to live within them

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5.  What Makes Us Valuable To God Within Us? - and to Our Shaikh within us, to our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), and to Bawa within Them, and to God within Bawa within Them, is one thing, and only one thing, and that is, "That We Don't Want Anything"
6.  So What Is God Doing Within Us? - He is telling and bringing to Completion within us "His Story" within us, which is the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, not looking at "us" as "separate from" Him, or deciding what "we" need, as "separate from" Him, for from God's perspective "we" as "separate from" God within us don't exist
7. How Do We Catch God? - "We can't Catch God", but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh, by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and by God within Him.  Amen

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8.  How Do We Catch Our Shaikh? - by learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does, and what They are doing, is handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return
9. And What Does Our Shaikh Then Have Us Do? - when "We" have truly become a True Disciple or Devotee of the Shaikh, as One who serves the Shaikh in the correct way, as One who truly surrenders and immerses oneself within the Shaikh, as One within whom the "you" is dead and gone, as One who has truly fallen into the "Fire of the Shaikh", of One who has only the qualities the Shaikh, of One who now exist as "One with" the Shaikh, and as such, has now become the Shaikh.  And What The Shaikh Then Has Us Do, is to "Serve His Children" by getting our Shaikh to serve them, and God within Him to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "Us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us

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1. Moving Forward God's Story Within Us - in the "Presence of God" within us, by Stopping "Our Story" on the "outside of us, in "Our presence"  on the "outside" of us, by making our mind and desire sit down within us, by allowing our wisdom to stand up within us, that is, before we "Put us into gear" on the "outside" of us, which is how we continue to establish "us" on the "outside" of us, and continue to tell "our" story on the "outside" of us, with each breath, look, word, taste, and thought, and in this way, this is what each of us must learn, in partnership with God within us, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, which is to truly learn how to "step back" on the "outside" of us, so God can "Step Forward" within us, before we "Say or do or write" anything on the "outside" of us, as this child has learned to do.  And in this way, the Choice is ours, not God's

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2. God Has Already Given Us Everything - so what are we to ask of God within us? And the answer is "Nothing".  In this way, rather than asking God for something more, or new, we need to correctly learn to use what we already have been given by God within us, but which we are currently failing to use properly.  That is, in each moment in our life, until our last breath, we need to allow God to use our life, which is our soul life, the pure birth and life within us, and everything He has already give to us, which is what is "Within God" within us, which is "Our Bank" within God within us, which is our heart, to finish what God has already started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is what God placed within us even before we came to this earth world or dunya within us

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3. A Little Story About "Nick" of New York City - that is, about our dearest loving brother Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), or Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as Bawa gave Him both names, about the correct way to "Enter the heart of our Shaikh", or "His Room", or to come together with "His Children", for in truth it is all the same, if we like, that is, if we truly understand "Who we are", and "Where we are", and "What is happening" in our life, for in truth "We" are the "Seed of God" buried within the Earth of God within the earth world within us, that is, within the Creation of God within us, and as such, "Where we are" is within the Creation of God within us, not on the "outside" of  us, as some of My Children still mistakenly believe.  And "What is happening" in our life is, "God is happening" within the Creation of God within us, and within that, "True Man is happening" within "God happening" within the Creation of God within us, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's

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4. God Is Always Saying To Us, "Catch Me If You Can" - as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, are always saying to us, "Catch Me If You Can", and now on the "outside" of us, as His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), are saying to us right now, "Catch Me If You Can", because
They
know something that many of My Children have yet to truly realize on the "outside" of them, and to truly start to live within them, that in truth, "There is nothing on the outside" of us, that Everything is really within us", and in truth, "There is nothing other than God" within us, and in truth "Only God exists" within us, and in truth, "God is One" within us.  Amen
5. What Makes Us Valuable To God Within Us - and to Our Shaikh within us, to our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), and to Bawa within Them, and to God within Bawa within Them, is one thing, and only one thing, and that is, "That We Don't Want Anything", because "We" realize, without the slightest doubt, that in truth, as we have been sharing in the earlier topics, that God has already given us Everything, and that "Only God" can use anything that God has given to us, not "us" in our current state of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, of living as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True"

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6. So What Is God Doing Within Us? - He is telling and bringing to Completion within us "His Story" within us, which is the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, not looking at "us" as "separate from" Him, or deciding what "we" need, as "separate from" Him, for from God's perspective "we" as "separate from" God within us don't exist.  For in truth, from God's perspective "We" are His Story being told within Him, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, "We" are His Story being told in "His Presence" within us, Unless we "Forget God", and turn away from Him within us, turn away from His Presence within us, and what He is doing within us, which is telling and bringing to Completion His Story within us.  Unless we Forget the telling of His Story within us in His Presence within us, causing His Story within us to Stop within us.  That is, Unless in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, we establish "our own presence" on the "outside" of us, and His Presence within us, apparently ends within us, for in truth He is Still Present within us, although we are now acting as if He is "Not Present" within us, and because of this act on our part, His Story within us stops being told within us, in "His Presence" within us, and "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us begins.

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7.  How Do We Catch God? - "We can't Catch God" within us, but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh within us, for that is why we are currently alive on the "outside" of us, that is, caught by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and by God within Him, and as such, if we like, "We are All One" within us, that is, "Us", our Shaikh within us, and God within our Shaikh within us, in truth are "One" within us.  Amen
8.  How Do We Catch Our Shaikh? - by learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does, and what They are doing, is handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return
9.  And What Does Our Shaikh Then Have Us Do? - when "We" have truly become a True Disciple or Devotee of the Shaikh, as One who serves the Shaikh in the correct way, as One who truly surrenders and immerses oneself within the Shaikh, as One within whom the "you" is dead and gone, as One who has truly fallen into the "Fire of the Shaikh", of One who has only the qualities the Shaikh, of One who now exist as "One with" the Shaikh, and as such, has now become the Shaikh.  And then, "What The Shaikh Then Has Us Do", is to "Do What He Does", which is "Serve His Children", by getting our Shaikh within us, to serve them, and God within Him, to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "Us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Us" within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, that became the individual souls reflected through each of our lives on the "outside" of us, which again becomes the "One Soul" that is Muhammad (Sal.) within us, if we like, that is, again becomes Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, when we truly join with God within us to return the 5 elemental lives within us, back to the state of the 5 Angels within us, to the 5 levels of wisdom within us, with Them coming together within us as One within us, as the "Path of The Kalimah" or "The Remembrance of God" within us, as the first 5 of the 7 levels of wisdom within us, which in maturity reveals the 6th level of wisdom within us, from within the 5 levels as "One" within us, and in maturity, revealing the 7th level of wisdom from within the 6th.

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Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 271

1.  Moving Forward God's Story Within Us  - in the "Presence of God" within us, by Stopping "Our Story" on the "outside of us, in "Our presence"  on the "outside" of us, by making our mind and desire sit down within us, by allowing our wisdom to stand up within us, that is, before we "Put us into gear" on the "outside" of us, which is how we continue to establish "us" on the "outside" of us, and continue to tell "our" story on the "outside" of us, with each breath, look, word, taste, and thought, and in this way, this is what each of us must learn, in partnership with God within us, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, which is to truly learn how to "step back" on the "outside" of us, so God can "Step Forward" within us, before we "Say or do or write" anything on the "outside" of us, as this child has learned to do.  And in this way, the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice about how our life will be used, while "we" are here, in this earth world or dunya, which is really within us, not "outside" of us, as some of My Children still mistakenly believe.  All of which is to either Witness "us" and what "we" think in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, that "we" are doing on the "outside" of us, all of which is "Just Not True" on the "outside" of us, or to join in partnership with God within us, to Witness God within us, and what God is doing within the Creation of God within us, which in truth is revealing God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is both within us, and  "Absolutely True" within us.  That is, to either tell and Complete "our story" on the "outside" of us, "our story" of "separation and differences", for our own "selfish" reasons, like to benefit us, and our family and friends, and at the same time, to harm the family and friends of others, or to join in partnership with God within us to tell and Complete "God's Story" within us.  That is, to use our life in the earth world or dunya within us, to either join in partnership with God within us to tell and bring to Completion "God's Story" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, or to join in partnership with our  mind and desire, and all of the lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, like weeds growing in "God's Beautiful Flower Garden", which in truth is our heart, to tell and bring to Completion "our story" on the "outside" of us, for the benefit of our family and friends, or our community, or our religion or race, because in truth "Only One Story" can be told at a time, not Two, not both, either "God's Story" or "our story", as some of My Children mistakenly still believe

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2. God Has Already Given Us Everything - so what are we to ask of God within us? And the answer is "Nothing".  In this way, rather than asking God for something more, or new, we need to correctly learn to use what we already have been given by God within us, but which we are currently failing to use properly.  That is, in each moment in our life, until our last breath, we need to allow God to use our life, which is our soul life, the pure birth and life within us, and everything He has already give to us, which is what is "Within God" within us, which is "Our Bank" within God within us, which is our heart, to finish what God has already started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is what God placed within us even before we came to this earth world or dunya within us.  That is, to this First of God's Schools within us, to this "School of Contrast" within us, where in truth each of us have come within us.  Which is a temporary place within us, where God sent us to learn about "His History, Your own History, and the History of many others", so through Contrast we can come to understand what is "separating us" from God within us, what is "separating us" from each other, and what is "separating us" from the Creation of God within us. So before we die to the flesh in our current state of "separation and differences", and get an eternal hell of "separation from" God within us, as our eternal reward, we can pass our exams, and graduate from this First of God's Schools within us, from this "School of Contrast" within us, and move on the Next of God's Schools within us, which is the "School of Light" within us, where God will personally and ever so patiently teach us about God within us, and about True Man within God within us, about the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, which is the Story of God within us, and within that, the Story of True Man within the Story of God within us, a Story that we have come to this earth world within us, to join in partnership with God within the Creation of God within us, to tell, if we like.  For the Choice to join in partnership with God within us, to tell and bring to Completion God's Story within us, or not, or to continue "stuck" in our mind and desire, in "our never ending" story on the illusory "outside" of us, which in truth is the story of the very real but false lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, all of which is what God has discarded from within Himself, in partnership with God within Himself, to become God within us, and all of which is not about God within us, or about what God is doing within us, that is, so "We too" can do what God did within Himself earlier, so in partnership with God within us, "We" can become God within the Creation of God within us, and all of which is most certainly our Choice, not God's, since God has already "Made His Choice", and He Chose God within Him, as now "We" must, if our life is to become truly successful in our life time.  Ok?.  In this way, may we make the wise Choice, before it is too late to do so.  Amen

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3.  A Little Story About "Nick" of New York City - that is, about our dearest loving brother Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen, or Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as Bawa gave Him both names, about the correct way to "Enter the heart of our Shaikh", or "His Room", or to come together with "His Children", for in truth it is all the same, if we like, that is, if we truly understand "Who we are", and "Where we are", and "What is happening" in our life, for in truth "We" are the "Seed of God" buried within the Earth of God within the earth world within us, that is, within the Creation of God within us, and as such, "Where we are" is within the Creation of God within us, not on the "outside" of  us, as some of My Children still mistakenly believe.  And "What is happening" in our life is, "God is happening" within the Creation of God within us, and within that, "True Man is happening" within "God happening" within the Creation of God within us, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice to join in partnership with God within us, to let this happen within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, all the time feeding the very real, but false lives within us, which are all of the lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, which will become the "suffering of the grave" within us, and Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within us, if we are not wise, if we do not wise up, before Kalam or "time" within us, which is our arrogance, karma, and illusion within us, leads us to Kalan within us, which is the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him), and the "Justice of God" within us, becomes our eternal fate, for according to the "Justice of God" that God placed within us, "Whatever we intend is what we will receive".  May we Chose wisely, before it is too late.  Amen

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4. God Is Always Saying Within Us, "Catch Me If You Can" - as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, are always saying to us, "Catch Me If You Can", and now on the "outside" of us, as His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), are saying to us right now, "Catch Me If You Can", because They know something that many of My Children have yet to truly realize on the "outside" of them, and to truly start to live within them,

That in truth,

     "There is nothing on the outside" of us, that in truth,
     "Everything is really within us",

And in truth,

     "There is nothing other than God" within us", and in truth
     "Only God exists" within us, and in truth,
     "God is One" within us.  Amen

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5. What Makes Us Valuable To God Within Us - and to Our Shaikh within us, to our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen
(may God be pleased with Him) within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to the Truly Awakened
Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), and to Bawa within Them, and to God within Bawa within Them, is one thing, and only one thing, and that is, "That We Don't Want Anything", because "We" realize, without the slightest doubt, that in truth, as we have been sharing in the earlier topics, that God has already given us Everything, and that "Only God" can use anything that God has given to us, not "us" in our current state of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, of living as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True".  So "What Makes Us Valuable to God Within Us", and to Our Shaikh Within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), is "We" starting to settle into "Stillness" through the realization that "Everything is Perfect", and "We" starting to truly realize, without the slightest doubt, that the most "We" can ever do, is to truly "Step Back" on the "outside" of us, in everything that we "Say or do or write", as this child has learned to do, so God can "Step Forward" within us again, as the "Presence of God" within us, as God within us telling and bringing to Completion  "His Story" within us, which in truth is the "Story of the Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us.  That is, as God was doing before within us, before we "Stopped Him", before "we" Forgot God, and fell into many a trap within us, before we no longer knew to "Seek ourselves within ourselves", that is, before "we" stepped forward on the illusory "outside" of us, and established "Our illusory presence" on the "outside" of us, in this way, with "us" becoming a "Feast of the world" within us, that is, with "us" starting to feed all of the very real but false lives of darkness and evil within us, now with our every breath, look, word, taste, and thought.  And in this way, Stopping God within us from telling and bringing to Completion what God started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is "His Story", the "Story of the Oneness of God and True Man" within us, a Story that like the apple seed, we came to this earth world within us, to tell, that is, a Story that we came to this earth world or dunya within us, to join as "One with" God within the Creation of God within us, to tell, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, the Choice to join with God within us, to tell and Complete His Story within us, or not, is most certainly our Choice, not God's.  May we all Chose wisely, before it is too late to do it, and the "Justice of God" within us, sends us to an eternal hell of "separation from" God within us, not because of anything God within us did, or failed to do, but because that is "What we truly want".  Amen

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6.  So What Is God Doing Within Us? - He is telling and bringing to Completion within us "His Story" within us, which is the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, not looking at "us" as "separate from" Him, or deciding what "we" need, as "separate from" Him, for from God's perspective "we" as "separate from" God within us don't exist.  For in truth, from God's perspective "We" are His Story being told within Him, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, "We" are His Story being told in "His Presence" within us, Unless we "Forget God", and turn away from Him within us, turn away from His Presence within us, and what He is doing within us, which is telling and bringing to Completion His Story within us.  Unless we Forget the telling of His Story within us in His Presence within us, causing His Story within us to Stop within us.  That is, Unless in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, we establish "our own presence" on the "outside" of us, and His Presence within us, apparently ends within us, for in truth He is Still Present within us, although we are now acting as if He is "Not Present" within us, and because of this act on our part, His Story within us stops being told within us, in "His Presence" within us, and "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us begins.  And this, and only this, is what God is doing within us, telling His Story within us, in "His Presence" within us, and this, only this, is why He stops telling His Story within us, in "His Presence" within us, because we have started to act like "we are present" on the "outside" of us, and that He is no longer "Present" within us, all of which is "Just Not True".  All of which is just like what an apple tree is doing and what an apple tree is only doing, while growing in the earth, and that is, telling its story in "Its Presence".  Everything else that we associate with God within us, other than this, other than God telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, in "His Presence" within us, is but a reflection of our drama, of the drama of "I and you" and of "mine and yours" on the "outside" of us, that has grown within us, in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, and that now rule over us as the 9 openings of our elemental body, with "God's Permission", until we "See God and Steady God" within us.  For example, God is telling His Story within us, like an apple tree is telling its story on the "outside" of us, as an external example of what each of us must do within us, in partnership with God within us.  That is, the apple tree is telling "Its Story" on the "outside" of us, as an example of "Us" within us, which is the story of the "Oneness of the Apple Tree and Its Apples", a Story that has been hidden by God within each apple seed, a Story of the "Apple Tree", and within that the Story of the "Apple Fruit", that can be told from within each apple seed, from each apple seed that has fallen from the apple tree, from within each of its fruits, from within each of its apple seeds that have become buried within the same earth that the apple tree is growing within.  That is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, and germinates to the truth within it, that is, if it likes, for like all people, not all apple seeds germinate to the truth within them, that is, germinate to the truth within it, before it rots in the earth and dies, and becomes subject to 105 million rebirths, but never again as an apple seed.  That is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, before it is too late, that is, to the reality that it is an apple seed buried within the earth, and that the earth contains everything necessary for the apple tree hidden within the apple seed to grow, and to become an apple tree growing in the earth, from which it has come, and has now returned, by becoming its source, allowing the apple tree to happen again, but this time within a new apple seed. And so it is with each of us, we are the "Seed of God" buried within the Creation of God within us, just waiting to germinate to the truth hidden within us by God, by our Creator, that is, when we truly become awakened to the reality of us, and join with this reality, even if it means that "we" must die to the "outside" of us, that is, die to "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us, that is, even if it means that "we" must let "us" as "separate from" come to an end on the "outside" of us.  And in this way, an only in this way, to be born to the true reality within us, which is our "Oneness with" within us, which is "The Presence of God" within us, telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, that is, the "Story of God" within us, and within that the "Story of True Man" within the "Story of God" within the Creation of God within us, before it is too late.  That is, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, in partnership with God within us, and we rot in our mind and desire, and eventually die to the flesh in our current state, in our current state of "separate from" on the "outside" of us.  And after the "suffering of the grave" within us, we get as part of our judgment within us, as part of Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within us, 105 million rebirths, but never again as the "Seed of God" within us, never again as the "Story of God" within us, a Story that we came to this earth world within us, to join as "One with" God within us, to tell, if we like.  For the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice to use our life in this way or not, like the apple seed that becomes aware of itself, accepting and joining with the reality of itself, letting the falsehood of itself end, so the truth of itself can be told, and revealed, for the benefit of Everyone.  And in this way, and only in this way, making its life truly successful in its lifetime.  Amen.  May we all Chose wisely, and like the rain falling back into the ocean, from which it has come, having completed its duty as rain, with "Us" again becoming "One with" the ocean of God's Grace, Wisdom, and Ilm or divine knowledge within us, no longer existing as "separate from" this Ocean of God within us, from which "We" have come, no longer existing as the rain, as the rain of the 400 trillion 10 thousand spiritual energies within us, that now rule over us as our thoughts, and our actions.  For as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, teach us for our age, and now on the "outside" of us, as His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us) are teaching us right now, in this Spiritual Chat,

     "All that you see is a dream.
     All that you do is just a thought within that dream.
     All that you appear as is hidden.

     "Life is a feast of the world,
     Its Medicine is a time after a time,

     (Its Medicine Is the Remembrance of God within us,
     With each breath, look, word, taste, and through,
     Until our last breath,
     Realizing that whether or not we are alive in the next moment,
     Is His will, not ours,
     May His will be done.  Amen)"

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7. How Do We Catch God? - "We can't Catch God", but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh, by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and by God within Him.  Amen

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8.  How Do We Catch Our Shaikh? - by learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does, and what They are doing, is handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return

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9. And What Does Our Shaikh Then Have Us Do? - when "We" have truly become a True Disciple or Devotee of the Shaikh, as One who serves the Shaikh in the correct way, as One who truly surrenders and immerses oneself within the Shaikh, as One within whom the "you" is dead and gone, as One who has truly fallen into the "Fire of the Shaikh", of One who has only the qualities the Shaikh, of One who now exist as "One with" the Shaikh, and as such, has now become the Shaikh.  And What The Shaikh Then Has Us Do, is to "Serve His Children" by getting our Shaikh to serve them, and God within Him to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "Us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, that became the individual souls reflected through our life on the "outside" of us, which again becomes the "One Soul" within us, if we like, that is, again becomes Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, when we truly join with God within us to return the 5 elemental lives within us, back to the state of the 5 Angels within us, coming together as One within us, as the Kalimah or "Remembrance of God" within us, as the first 5 of the 7 levels of wisdom within us, which in maturity revealing the 6th level of wisdom from within the 5, and in maturity revealing the 7th level of wisdom from within the 6th

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Closing Comments - please give my love and salams to your dearest loving wife, and our dearest loving sister, Angela, and to your dearest loving daughter, and our dearest loving little sister, Jameela, and to your dearest loving son, and our dearest loving brother Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brother and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship

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Text of Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 274
1.  Moving Forward God's Story Within Us - in the "Presence of God" within us, by Stopping "Our Story" on the "outside of us, in "Our presence"  on the "outside" of us, by making our mind and desire sit down within us, by allowing our wisdom to stand up within us, that is, before we "Put us into gear" on the "outside" of us, which is how we continue to establish "us" on the "outside" of us, and continue to tell "our" story on the "outside" of us, with each breath, look, word, taste, and thought, and in this way, this is what each of us must learn, in partnership with God within us, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, which is to truly learn how to "step back" on the "outside" of us, so God can "Step Forward" within us, before we "Say or do or write" anything on the "outside" of us, as this child has learned to do.  And in this way, the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice about how our life will be used, while "we" are here, in this earth world or dunya, which is really within us, not "outside" of us, as some of My Children still mistakenly believe.  All of which is to either Witness "us" and what "we" think in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, that "we" are doing on the "outside" of us, all of which is "Just Not True" on the "outside" of us, or to join in partnership with God within us, to Witness God within us, and what God is doing within the Creation of God within us, which in truth is revealing God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is both within us, and  "Absolutely True" within us.  That is, to either tell and Complete "our story" on the "outside" of us, "our story" of "separation and differences", for our own "selfish" reasons, like to benefit us, and our family and friends, and at the same time, to harm the family and friends of others, or to join in partnership with God within us to tell and Complete "God's Story" within us.  That is, to use our life in the earth world or dunya within us, to either join in partnership with God within us to tell and bring to Completion "God's Story" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, or to join in partnership with our  mind and desire, and all of the lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, like weeds growing in "God's Beautiful Flower Garden", which in truth is our heart, to tell and bring to Completion "our story" on the "outside" of us, for the benefit of our family and friends, or our community, or our religion or race, because in truth "Only One Story" can be told at a time, not Two, not both, as some of My Children mistakenly still believe

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem. Al salaam 'alaykum my dear brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen. May the Peace and Blessings of Allah, Rasoul and Muhaiyaddeen be with you and with your beautiful family. My love you. Anbu.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate.
Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam, my dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman.
Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. And what does my dearest loving brother have to share about God within him, and what is "Within God" within him, and what God is doing with what is "Within God" within Him?

2.  God Has Already Given Us Everything - so what are we to ask of God within us? And the answer is "Nothing".  In this way, rather than asking God for something more, or new, we need to correctly learn to use what we already have been given by God within us, but which we are currently failing to use properly.  That is, in each moment in our life, until our last breath, we need to allow God to use our life, which is our soul life, the pure birth and life within us, and everything He has already give to us, which is what is "Within God" within us, which is "Our Bank" within God within us, which is our heart, to finish what God has already started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, all of which is what God placed within us even before we came to this earth world or dunya within us.  That is, to this First of God's Schools within us, to this "School of Contrast" within us, where in truth each of us have come within us.  Which is a temporary place within us, where God sent us to learn about "His History, Your own History, and the History of many others", so through Contrast we can come to understand what is "separating us" from God within us, what is "separating us" from each other, and what is "separating us" from the Creation of God within us. So before we die to the flesh in our current state of "separation and differences", and get an eternal hell of "separation from" God within us, as our eternal reward, we can pass our exams, and graduate from this First of God's Schools within us, from this "School of Contrast" within us, and move on the Next of God's Schools within us, which is the "School of Light" within us, where God will personally and ever so patiently teach us about God within us, and about True Man within God within us, about the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, which is the Story of God within us, and within that, the Story of True Man within the Story of God within us, a Story that we have come to this earth world within us, to join in partnership with God within the Creation of God within us, to tell, if we like.  For the Choice to join in partnership with God within us, to tell and bring to Completion God's Story within us, or not, or to continue "stuck" in our mind and desire, in "our never ending" story on the illusory "outside" of us, which in truth is the story of the very real but false lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, all of which is what God has discarded from within Himself, in partnership with God within Himself, to become God within us, and all of which is not about God within us, or about what God is doing within us, that is, so "We too" can do what God did within Himself earlier, so in partnership with God within us, "We" can become God within the Creation of God within us, and all of which is most certainly our Choice, not God's, since God has already "Made His Choice", and He Chose God within Him, as now "We" must, if our life is to become truly successful in our life time.  Ok?.  In this way, may we make the wise Choice, before it is too late to do so.  Amen

[Note:  See Spiritual Chat 275, "God Has Already Given Us Everything, So Our Work Is To Join With God Within Us, To Correctly Use What We Already Have, Not Mistakenly Ask For Something More or New", for more on this Wisdom Point. To access Spiritual Chat 275, please click above or HERE (www.SpiritualChat275.
homestread.com).  Thank you.  Enjoy.  Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Do we have time for some wisdom sharing tonight?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Yes, we have time, as God has given us this time, to move forward in our understanding of Him, of what is "within Him", and of what He is doing with what is "within Him".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Let us see what He has to tell us at this time.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa.  That is, if we like, or we can use the time to talk about Curtis and Louie, the Choice is ours.  So what is your Choice?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Let's go with what God has for us. I'm kind of tired of hearing about Curtis and Louie right now.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.

Bawa. But God doesn't have anything for "us", for the concept of "us", of :"us" living as if we are "separate from" God, as if we are "separate from" each other, and as if we are "separate from' the Creation of God within us, is uniquely "our concept" in our current state of "separation and differences", that is, in "our presence" on the "outside" of us, with "us" joining with our mind and desire, with each breath, each look, with each word, with each taste, and with each thought, to tell and try to bring to completion "our story" on the "outside" of us, and is not, in any shaper or form, part of God within us, or of what is "Within God" within us, or of what God is doing with what is "Within God" within us, that is, is not part of the "Presence of God" within us, or part of the "Story of God" within us, or of the "Story of True Man" within God within us. Ok?

Bawa.  For all that God is doing within us is telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, which He will gladly do within us, like an apple tree will gladly appear within each apple seed that is buried within the earth, as long as it realizes, understands, accepts, and joins with the truth of itself, and of the apple tree hidden within it, and germinates to the truth within it, letting the "Truth surrender to the Truth" within it..

Bawa.  And in a similar way, God will gladly continue to tell His Story within us, and bring it to Completion within us, as long as we join in partnership with God within us, rather than with our mind and desire, to realize, understand, accept, and join with the truth of us, and of God hidden within us, and germinate to the truth of us, and to the Truth of God within us, and germinate to the truth within us, letting the "Truth surrender to the Truth" within us.

Bawa.  That is, as long as "we" are not telling and trying to bring to Completion "Our story" on the "outside" of us.

Bawa.  So if we "sit down", that is, if we can learn how to join in partnership with God within us, to make our mind and desire sit down within us, God will automatically stand up within us. then our life will truly become successful in our lifetime, like an apple tree that germinates to the truth within it, destroying the apple seed of itself, and revealing the apple tree of itself, so the fruits of itself can occur, and the sweet taste within the apple fruits, but again the seed, the apple seed.

Bawa.  And in this way, God does not "see" us as "we' talk about ourselves.

Bawa.  For,

"God is a Power.  He has no form or shape.  He is alone, and yet He is everywhere, existing as an Eternal Power, which dwells within all lives and sees them all as One"

[Note:  See the "Opening Prayer" to the beautiful book of wisdom, "A Mystical Journey", by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, by His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), if we like.  To access an on-line copy of the "Table of Contents", of "A Mystical Journey", please click above or HERE.  Once there, click on "Opening Prayer".  Thank you.  Enjoy.  Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]

Bawa.  For doing what you said is not in truth how God is within us, or how "We are" within God within us, or how God does what He does within us, or how we should be relating to God within us, which is as "His Witness' of Him, revealing Him to Him, for the benefit of Him, for in truth, "There is nothing other than God' within us, and "Only God exists" within us, and "God is One" within us.  Amen.

Bawa.  For example, you say,

"Let us see what He has to tell us at this time."

And you say,

"Let's go with what God has for us."

Bawa.  For in truth God has nothing to "tell us at this time", nor does God have "anything for us", as you say.

Bawa.  What you said is like asking what the TV has to tell us, for in truth it is "we" who determine what we will watch on the TV, by the Choice we make, and so it is with God, so what is your Choice, Louie has already given you his Choice?

3.  A Little Story About "Nick" of New York City - that is, about our dearest loving brother Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen, or Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as Bawa gave Him both names, about the correct way to "Enter the heart of our Shaikh", or "His Room", or to come together with "His Children", for in truth it is all the same, if we like, that is, if we truly understand "Who we are", and "Where we are", and "What is happening" in our life, for in truth "We" are the "Seed of God" buried within the Earth of God within the earth world within us, which is within the Creation of God within us, and as such, "Where we are" is within the Creation of God within us, and "What is happening" in our life is, "God is happening" within the Creation of God within us, and within that, "True Man is happening" within "God happening" within the Creation of God within us, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, the Choice to join in partnership with God within us, to let this happen within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, all the time feeding the very real, but false lives within us, which are all of the lives of darkness and evil that have grown within us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, which will become the "suffering of the grave" within us, and Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within us, if we are not wise, if we do not wise up, before Kalam or "time" within us, which is our arrogance, karma, and illusion within us, leads us to Kalan within us, which is the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him), and the "Justice of God" within us, becomes our eternal fate, for according to the "Justice of God" that God placed within us, "Whatever we intend is what we will receive".  May we Chose wisely, before it is too late.  Amen

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.

Bawa. A little story. Nick from New York used to drive down to the Ship for NY each week, like William from Canada, used to drive down from Canada each week, to see our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him.

Bawa. And the story goes that Nick (Muhammad Rahim Muhaiyaddeen, and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, as Bawa gave Him both names), used to listen to the two discourses and one song that Bawa gave to us on April 26, 1972, on the "One Good Day In a 100 Years, so when he finally got to Bawa's room, he had been preparing himself for this time with Bawa properly, not just wandering into the room to "see what was happening" as many did, to see what Bawa had for us.

Bawa.  So too my dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman, with "us" coming together daily, as we are right now, "we" need to prepare for this time, for this time at the "Feet of God" for our age, prepare for this time as the most important time of the day, for what we get out of it will be completely determined by what we put into it, before we come together. Ok?

Bawa.  Always remembering what Jesus (peace be upon Him) told us over 2000 years ago, and what our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, also teach us for our age, and what now on the "outside" of us, His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us) are teaching us right now, in this Spiritual Chat, that is,

"If two of you come together in "My Name", I will be there (that is, the "Presence of God" will be established within us, allowing us to sit on God's lap within us, as our wisdom teaches us "what we do not know", as we "watch the drama" on the "outside" of us "All Together", that is, as "One", that is, as the "Power within the Essence of Everything".  Amen"

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So spend you day, as much as your can, preparing for "this time", by prayer, by reading, by searching for God's intention, gradually collecting a feeling for what this time should produce, with faith in God that God will then deliver, and not just "us", "wondering into the room" to see what is happening, to see what God has for us today. Ok?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So in truth what you get, and what this child gets, from "this time" Together with our awakened wisdom, joined as One with our liberated soul, in search of God within us, is determined by "us", not by Bawa within us, or by God within Him.
Bawa.  That is, what we get from coming together in "His Name", so "He can be there" within us, and teach us "what we do not know", is our Choice, not God, and not Bawa's.
Bawa.  For in truth, each time we come together in "His Name" in this way, is in truth the Angel Gabriel (peace be upon Him) within us, coming together with the Prophet Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, in the Prophet's Cave within us, right outside of Mecca within us, squeezing the Prophet of God three times, saying to Him,

"Read!  Read!  In the name of God who created man from a sensitive drop of blood, and teaches him what "he does not know", Read!"

Bawa. For such is the true significance of our coming together in this way, as two Children of God for our age, at the Feet of God for our age, So God can "Be There", and complete what God has started within us, within each of us, if we like, which is to reveal God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us.

Bawa.  And in this way, the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, the Choice of what happens in our Spiritual Chats, is completely determined by us, not by Bawa within us, or by God within Him. Ok?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. This is like what was shared in "Spiritual Chat 271",

"Stop Leading Us To Hell Within you. Step Back, And Let God Embrace Us Within You"

[Note:  Click HERE to access an on-line copy of Spiritual Chat 271 (www.SpiritualChat 271.homestead.com).  Thank you.  Enjoy.  Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]

Bawa. That is, you have to learn how to "Catch God and put Him to work" within you, Bawa.  All of which is something that you, and most of My Children, have yet to do, my dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman.  Ok?

4.  God Is Always Saying Within Us, "Catch Me If You Can" - as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, are always saying to us, "Catch Me If You Can", and now on the "outside" of us, as His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), are saying to us right now, "Catch Me If You Can", because They know something that many of My Children have yet to truly realize on the "outside" of them, and to truly start to live within them, that in truth, "There is nothing on the outside" of us, that Everything is really within us", and in truth, "There is nothing other than God" within us, and in truth "Only God exists" within us, and in truth, "God is One" within us.  Amen

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. For example, what is God saying to "us", all the time, from within us?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Ok, I understand. Before this child signed on I was just out walking around (past your house in fact) and really trying to focus on praying with Bawa with the intention that He clear away any desires, attachments, mind noise, wants that I have so that I could hear Him clearly speak to me. I was praying one of the surahs (I forget its name) and asking that Bawa destroy me and reveal Him.
I finally came up with a request for Bawa (other than that He destroy me and reveal Him) that he teach me to know how to ask questions of Him and how to hear and understand the answers that He gives. Asking that He clear away anything that might interfere with a clarity of understanding (such as mind, desire, attachments, etc.)

(Getting to the answer to your question after I send this.)

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. I guess that this is still in the realm of separating myself from Bawa but this is what came out of my prayers during this walk.

What is God saying to "us" all the time? Something like, "Here am I. Where are you." would be this child's guess.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. No, you have it all backwards.  What God is saying to us is one thing, and one thing alone, and that is, "Catch Me if you can".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Then we have to use God to catch God, correct?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. An interesting answer, but before we answer that, here is another related question.
Bawa.  What is our Shaikh saying to us all the time?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. "What do you need?"

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Again, you have it all backwards, what the Shaikh is saying to us, and only saying to us, is, "Catch Me if you can".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Ok. Please go on.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. And finally, what are the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), Those who truly knows that "They can fly", saying to us?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah.  I do not know.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. What the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), that is, Those who truly knows that "They can fly", are saying to us, and are only saying to us, is, "Catch Me if you can".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah.  It would appear that this child is not doing a very good job of catching either one.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Yes, except for what is leading you to hell, to an eternal hell of "separation from" God within you, you have certainly and most definitely learned how to catch "Curtis" living a life of "selfishness" on the "outside" of us.  For example, by walking around asking Bawa within you, and God within Him, to give you, and give you, and give you, on and on and on. Ok?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Ok. I understand.

5.  What Makes Us Valuable To God Within Us - and to Our Shaikh within us, to our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to the Truly Awakened Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), and to Bawa within Them, and to God within Bawa within Them, is one thing, and only one thing, and that is, "That We Don't Want Anything", because "We" realize, without the slightest doubt, that in truth, as we have been sharing in the earlier topics, that God has already given us Everything, and that "Only God" can use anything that God has given to us, not "us" in our current state of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, of living as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True".  So "What Makes Us Valuable to God Within Us", and to Our Shaikh Within us, and to God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, to His Truly Awakened Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), is "We" starting to settle into "Stillness" through the realization that "Everything is Perfect", and "We" starting to truly realize, without the slightest doubt, that the most "We" can ever do, is to truly "Step Back" on the "outside" of us, in everything that we "Say or do or write", as this child has learned to do, so God can "Step Forward" within us again, as the "Presence of God" within us, as God within us telling and bringing to Completion  "His Story" within us, which in truth is the "Story of the Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us.  That is, as God was doing before within us, before we "Stopped Him", before "we" Forgot God, and fell into many a trap within us, before we no longer knew to "Seek ourselves within ourselves", that is, before "we" stepped forward on the illusory "outside" of us, and established "Our illusory presence" on the "outside" of us, in this way, with "us" becoming a "Feast of the world" within us, that is, with "us" starting to feed all of the very real but false lives of darkness and evil within us, now with our every breath, look, word, taste, and thought.  And in this way, Stopping God within us from telling and bringing to Completion what God started within us, a very, very long time ago, which is "His Story", the "Story of the Oneness of God and True Man" within us, a Story that like the apple seed, we came to this earth world within us, to tell, that is, a Story that we came to this earth world or dunya within us, to join as "One with" God within the Creation of God within us, to tell, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, the Choice to join with God within us, to tell and Complete His Story within us, or not, is most certainly our Choice, not God's.  May we all Chose wisely, before it is too late to do it, and the "Justice of God" within us, sends us to an eternal hell of "separation from" God within us, not because of anything God within us did, or failed to do, but because that is "What we truly want".  Amen

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Ok, now that you are completely confused, which is a wonderful thing, lets put it all back together again, but this time correctly. Ok?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah.  Sounds good to me.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. What makes you valuable to God, or to your Shaikh, or to a truly awakened Child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us)?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. That soul that God placed within each of us before we came to this world.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Sure, but that is like saying what makes the earth valuable are the gems, and gold buried within it, but not if you can't harvest it from the earth.
Bawa. What makes your valuable to God, or to your Shaikh, or to a truly awakened Child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), is if "you don't want anything".

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Ok, I understand.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. For like the gems and gold buried within the earth, what if the earth wanted something, like to keep its trees, and its hills, and its valleys, the way they are, because it believe that this is what defined the earth. Of what value would the earth be then to someone who know how to harvest the gems and gold from the earth?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. No value at all.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So of what value are you to God, or to your Shaikh, or to a truly enlightened Child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of us), who truly could awaken the wisdom surrounding your soul, liberate your soul, and join it with the Nur, establishing True Prayer within you, allowing God to tell and Complete His Story within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you, if you refuse to give up Curtis, and the desires and attachments of Curtis, on the illusory "outside" of you, and refuse to let Them, close down the world of hell, of jinns, and of fairies within you, which are the sections below your waist, your stomach, and your chest, and re-open the world of souls within you, and then open the kingdom of God within you, because you think all of this "Stuff of Curtis", defines you, but all of which must go, if your soul is to be liberated?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Of no value at all.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Do you begin to see why "We" must come together daily, so this way of thinking, and acting can be changed, day by day, that is, from "selfishness to selflessness", and from "your presence" on the "outside" of you, to "God's Presence" within you?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Yes I see and that is certainly my intention to do this.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. For in truth, this is what Bawa meant, when He said, "You must daily weed the garden, so the Flowers can grow". Ok?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. All right, now what's next?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So what makes you valuable to God, to your Shaikh, and to a truly enlightened Child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), is if you will join Them in what They are doing, instead of having your "own agenda". Ok?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Very good. I will do that.

6.  So What Is God Doing Within Us? - He is telling and bringing to Completion within us "His Story" within us, which is the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, not looking at "us" as "separate from" Him, or deciding what "we" need, as "separate from" Him, for from God's perspective "we" as "separate from" God within us don't exist.  For in truth, from God's perspective "We" are His Story being told within Him, if we like, for the Choice is ours, not God's, that is, "We" are His Story being told in "His Presence" within us, Unless we "Forget God", and turn away from Him within us, turn away from His Presence within us, and what He is doing within us, which is telling and bringing to Completion His Story within us.  Unless we Forget the telling of His Story within us in His Presence within us, causing His Story within us to Stop within us.  That is, Unless in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, we establish "our own presence" on the "outside" of us, and His Presence within us, apparently ends within us, for in truth He is Still Present within us, although we are now acting as if He is "Not Present" within us, and because of this act on our part, His Story within us stops being told within us, in "His Presence" within us, and "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us begins.  And this, and only this, is what God is doing within us, telling His Story within us, in "His Presence" within us, and this, only this, is why He stops telling His Story within us, in "His Presence" within us, because we have started to act like "we are present" on the "outside" of us, and that He is no longer "Present" within us, all of which is "Just Not True".  All of which is just like what an apple tree is doing and what an apple tree is only doing, while growing in the earth, and that is, telling its story in "Its Presence".  Everything else that we associate with God within us, other than this, other than God telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, in "His Presence" within us, is but a reflection of our drama, of the drama of "I and you" and of "mine and yours" on the "outside" of us, that has grown within us, in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, and that now rule over us as the 9 openings of our elemental body, with "God's Permission", until we "See God and Steady God" within us.  For example, God is telling His Story within us, like an apple tree is telling its story on the "outside" of us, as an external example of what each of us must do within us, in partnership with God within us.  That is, the apple tree is telling "Its Story" on the "outside" of us, as an example of "Us" within us, which is the story of the "Oneness of the Apple Tree and Its Apples", a Story that has been hidden by God within each apple seed, a Story of the "Apple Tree", and within that the Story of the "Apple Fruit", that can be told from within each apple seed, from each apple seed that has fallen from the apple tree, from within each of its fruits, from within each of its apple seeds that have become buried within the same earth that the apple tree is growing within.  That is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, and germinates to the truth within it, that is, if it likes, for like all people, not all apple seeds germinate to the truth within them, that is, germinate to the truth within it, before it rots in the earth and dies, and becomes subject to 105 million rebirths, but never again as an apple seed.  That is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, before it is too late, that is, to the reality that it is an apple seed buried within the earth, and that the earth contains everything necessary for the apple tree hidden within the apple seed to grow, and to become an apple tree growing in the earth, from which it has come, and has now returned, by becoming its source, allowing the apple tree to happen again, but this time within a new apple seed. And so it is with each of us, we are the "Seed of God" buried within the Creation of God within us, just waiting to germinate to the truth hidden within us by God, by our Creator, that is, when we truly become awakened to the reality of us, and join with this reality, even if it means that "we" must die to the "outside" of us, that is, die to "our presence" and "our story" on the "outside" of us, that is, even if it means that "we" must let "us" as "separate from" come to an end on the "outside" of us.  And in this way, an only in this way, to be born to the true reality within us, which is our "Oneness with" within us, which is "The Presence of God" within us, telling and bringing to Completion "His Story" within us, that is, the "Story of God" within us, and within that the "Story of True Man" within the "Story of God" within the Creation of God within us, before it is too late.  That is, before it is too late to do this "Heart's Work" within us, in partnership with God within us, and we rot in our mind and desire, and eventually die to the flesh in our current state, in our current state of "separate from" on the "outside" of us.  And after the "suffering of the grave" within us, we get as part of our judgment within us, as part of Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within us, 105 million rebirths, but never again as the "Seed of God" within us, never again as the "Story of God" within us, a Story that we came to this earth world within us, to join as "One with" God within us, to tell, if we like.  For the Choice is ours, not God's.  That is, the Choice to use our life in this way or not, like the apple seed that becomes aware of itself, accepting and joining with the reality of itself, letting the falsehood of itself end, so the truth of itself can be told, and revealed, for the benefit of Everyone.  And in this way, and only in this way, making its life truly successful in its lifetime.  Amen.  May we all Chose wisely, and like the rain falling back into the ocean, from which it has come, having completed its duty as rain, with "Us" again becoming "One with" the ocean of God's Grace, Wisdom, and Ilm or divine knowledge within us, no longer existing as "separate from" this Ocean of God within us, from which "We" have come, no longer existing as the rain, as the rain of the 400 trillion 10 thousand spiritual energies within us, that now rule over us as our thoughts, and our actions.  For as our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and God within Him, teach us for our age, and now on the "outside" of us, as His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us) are teaching us right now, in this Spiritual Chat,

"All that you see is a dream.
All that you do is just a thought within that dream.
All that you appear as is hidden.

"Life is a feast of the world,
Its Medicine is a time after a time,
(Is the Remembrance of God within us,
With each breath, look, word, taste, and through,
Until our last breath,
Realizing that whether or not we are alive in the next moment,
Is His will, not ours,
May His will be done.  Amen)"

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. So what is God doing?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Waiting for us to catch Him?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamd lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. No, from God's perspective "we" don't exist, "we" are His Story being told, in "His Presence", until we "Forget God", until in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, we establish "our presence" on the "outside" of us, and His Story within us, stops, and "our story" on the "outside" of us begin. 
Bawa. And this is your current state. Each day you are living in "your presence" on the "outside" of you, telling "your story", witnessing Curtis living a life of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of you, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" each of your brothers and sisters, and as if you are "separate from" the Creation of God within you, all of which is "Just Not True".

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. What God is doing is just that, telling His Story, just like an apple tree is doing just that, telling its story, within each apple seed that has fallen from the apple tree, within its fruits, and has become buried within the earth, that is, if the apple seed awakens to the reality of itself, and germinates to the truth within it, that is, that it is an apple seed buried within the earth, and that the earth contains everything necessary for the apple tree hidden within the apple seed to grow and to become an apple tree growing in the earth.

Bawa. So too God is telling His story in each of us, that is, as the "Seeds of God", which is our soul, which has come to this earth world or dunya within us, and become buried within the earth, that is, if the "we" as the "Seed of God" awakens to the reality of ourselves, and germinates to the truth within us, that is, that "we" are the "Seed of God" buried within the "Earth of God", which is the Creation of God within us, and that the earth or Creation of God within us contains everything necessary for the "Tree of God" hidden within us, hidden within the "Seed of God" within us, to grow and become the "Tree of God" known as Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us.

Bawa. That is, the "Tree of God" within us, with the tap root of "Ill Allahu, La illaha" (You are Allah.  There is nothing other than God) within us, with the trunk of Iman , with the branches of the 124,000 Heavenly Beings, Prophets, and Lights of God, and the "Fruit of God" as the 6,666 verses of the Holy Qur'an, which in truth is "The Pearl of Wisdom", growing within the earth world within us.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. And along with the soul comes the wisdom surrounding the soul, as the Guardian of the Soul, which is the 6th level of wisdom within us, the wisdom of the Qutbiyyat of God within us, which is the grace of the Dhat or the Essence of God within us, which we awaken with the "Word of God" for our age, allowing the awakened wisdom to liberate our soul, and in the process, allowing it to destroy our illusory life on the "outside" of us, and the lives of darkness and evil within us, which are all very, very real but false within us.  For example, the life of "Curtis" living on the "outside" of himself, so he can sin, so he can live a life of "selfishness", of "separation and differences".

Bawa. So the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, will you join with your awakened wisdom, to do battle with the Enemy of your soul, which is your current life on the "outside" of you, gradually allowing the awakened wisdom to pull out the 5 nails of "your desire" to live on the "outside" of you and sin.

7.  How Do We Catch God? - "We can't Catch God", but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh, by our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and by God within Him.  Amen

Bawa. And that is what it means "Catch Me if you can", that is, God say, "Get Me to tell and bring to Completion My Story within you", if you can. Ok?

Bawa. And therefore, How do we Catch God?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. We must use the wisdom surrounding our soul which is the Qutbiyyat of God which is Bawa Muhaiyaddeen and we do this by saying "Bawa" or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" or "Shaikh Muhamad Raheem Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" before we say or do or write anything.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. An interesting answer, but no.
Bawa. The answer is, "We can't Catch God", but thank God He has already been caught by our Shaikh.

8.  How Do We Catch Our Shaikh? - by learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does, and what They are doing, is handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return

Bawa. So how do we "Catch our Shaikh"?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. By learning from someone who has already caught our Shaikh and doing as he/she does.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes.
Bawa. And what are They, that is, Those who have already caught our Shaikh doing, that we must join Them in doing, and dedicate our entire life, and energies to?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. They are handing their entire lives over to the Shaikh and asking for nothing in return.

9.  And What Does Our Shaikh Then Have Us Do? - when "We" have truly become a True Disciple or Devotee of the Shaikh, as One who serves the Shaikh in the correct way, as One who truly surrenders and immerses oneself within the Shaikh, as One within whom the "you" is dead and gone, as One who has truly fallen into the "Fire of the Shaikh", of One who has only the qualities the Shaikh, of One who now exist as "One with" the Shaikh, and as such, has now become the Shaikh.  And What The Shaikh Then Has Us Do, is to "Serve His Children" by getting our Shaikh to serve them, and God within Him to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "Us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, that became the individual souls reflected through our life on the "outside" of us, which again becomes the "One Soul" within us, if we like, that is, again becomes Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, when we truly join with God within us to return the 5 elemental lives within us, back to the state of the 5 Angels within us, coming together as One within us, as the Kalimah or "Remembrance of God" within us, as the first 5 of the 7 levels of wisdom within us, which in maturity revealing the 6th level of wisdom from within the 5, and in maturity revealing the 7th level of wisdom from within the 6th.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes,
Bawa. And what Does our Shaikh have them do with their life, in service to Him, and to God within Him?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah.  I am not sure what He has them do.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. A very, very, very good answer Grass-Hopper.
Bawa. What the Shaikh has them do, each moment of their life, is to "Serve His Children", but to "Serve them" without "Serving them", that is, by always stepping back when they are before "His Children" and doing what you shared earlier,

"We must use the wisdom surrounding our soul which is the Qutbiyyat of God, which is Bawa Muhaiyaddeen, and we do this by saying "Bawa" or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" or "Shaikh Muhamad Raheem Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" before we "Say or do or write" anything".

Bawa. That is, by "Serving His Children" by getting our Shaikh to serve them, and God within Him to serve them, realizing that in truth, each of His Children are "us", are in truth "One with" us within us, are in truth "Who we are" within us, as the "One soul" that is Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, that became the individual souls reflected through our life on the "outside" of us, which again becomes the "One Soul" within us, if we like, that is, again becomes Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within us, when we truly join with God within us to return the 5 elemental lives within us, back into the state of the 5 Angels within us, coming together as One within us, as the Kalimah or "Remembrance of God" within us, as the first 5 of the 7 levels of wisdom within us, which in maturity revealing the 6th level of wisdom from within the 5, and in maturity revealing the 7th level of wisdom from within the 6th.

Closing Comments - please give my love and salams to your dearest loving wife, and our dearest loving sister, Angela, and to your dearest loving daughter, and our dearest loving little sister, Jameela, and to your dearest loving son, and our dearest loving brother Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brother and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Enough for tonight?

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. Yes, my dear brother. I believe that is enough for tonight. Insha Allah we will meet again tomorrow night for more sharing.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all.  May God help us all. Amen.
Bawa. Please give my love and salams to your dearest loving wife, and our dearest loving sister, Angela, and to your dearest loving daughter, and our dearest loving little sister, Jameela, and to your dearest loving son, and our dearest loving brother Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brother and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship. (more)

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in our prayers.

Bawa. And as always, please join in partnership with Bawa within us, and with God within Him, to share this sharing with them, to "Serve His Children" in this way, by getting Him to "Serve Them", in this way, by doing what you shared when you are before them, seeing what needs to be done to "Serve them", and then stepping back, so God can step forward within you, and start to tell His Story again within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you, and within each of Us.  Amen.

Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).

mmsulaiman11:

Bawa. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah. My love you. Please give my love to your beautiful wife Crisi and to Susan and Lisa and to their families and to my little brother Noah. Please tell them that  Muhamad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman loves them very much. Meechum, Meechum Anbu.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. Amen.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Bawa. While reviewing our chat, Bawa within us, and God within Him, gave our chat the following Title:

"God Says To Us,
'Catch Me If You Can'"


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